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Facet red electric fuel pump.

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:56 am
by sprintchris
Hello....

Need some advice on the red facet fuel pump, I'm at a point I need to fit this to the car, and understand it needs to go close to the fuel tank. What's the best and easiest place to fit, due to the position of the tank outlet I'm thinking it'll be awkward to locate in the boot.

Can anyone help? Photos of what you've done to your cars would be great! Photos always explain things so much better.

Thanks in advance to all those that can help.

Chris.

Re: Facet red electric fuel pump.

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:00 pm
by Jon Tilson
Err why?

Chuck it in the bin would be my advice. Its rubbish at pumping fuel and makes a din in the process.

Nothing wrong at all with the OE AC delco or its Q-H replacement. Failing that get an SU leccy one as for an MGB.

My 2 cents...

Jonners

Re: Facet red electric fuel pump.

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:27 pm
by soe8m
Jonners you are wrong on this one. The facet silver, gold and red top fuel pumps are the best and reliable and quietest to use. For a redtop you have to use a filterking.

The square facet pumps are very noisy but the bendix copies are quiet and most used aftermarket electric fuel pumps in the world.

The best is as low as possible and vertical. In a dolomite I fit them outside the car in the rear axle housing of the body. The fuel line is already there so easy fitment.

Jeroen.

Re: Facet red electric fuel pump.

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:34 pm
by sprintchris
soe8m wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:27 pm Jonners you are wrong on this one. The facet silver, gold and red top fuel pumps are the best and reliable and quietest to use. For a redtop you have to use a filterking.

The square facet pumps are very noisy but the bendix copies are quiet and most used aftermarket electric fuel pumps in the world.

The best is as low as possible and vertical. In a dolomite I fit them outside the car in the rear axle housing of the body. The fuel line is already there so easy fitment.

Jeroen.
Thanks for the advice....would you have a picture showing the best/exact location? Also, do you run the fuel lines along the nearside as per factory spec.

Re: Facet red electric fuel pump.

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:48 pm
by soe8m
No pics but as long the axle has free travel and some extra you are fine. You can cut the original fuel line and plump the facet in between.

Jeroen.

Re: Facet red electric fuel pump.

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:00 pm
by Jon Tilson
I guess Jeroen has a bigger sample size than me.....

Like I said my 2 cents....

Every one I've had the misfortune to inherit or work on has been the same....bin fodder.

Others like NGK plugs too.

I am not always right....:-)

Jonners

Re: Facet red electric fuel pump.

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:54 pm
by Triumph1300
Also remember, that the under car fuel line is now pressure, instead of suction.
Check the hose condition, and add clips

Re: Facet red electric fuel pump.

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:05 pm
by mahony
Been running a Facet red top since 1996 with no problems, mine is on the off side inner wing :D :D

Re: Facet red electric fuel pump.

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:52 pm
by SprintMWU773V
Must admit I was amazed by how noisy some pumps can be. Took a customer out in a fast road Healey last year and the racket was unbelievable. All it did was tick away to itself and was very annoying. Can't remember which model but think it was a Red Top Facet. Sadly when the car was sold (not by us) it caught fire and was completely destroyed. I imagine the fuel pump was still happily ticking away feeding the fire with fuel.

From my limited knowledge of fuel pumps I've concluded that using such a pump makes sense on a high performance car or race car but that the constant running just causes a nuisance on a road car as does all the necessary return hosing.

Always surprised that Triumph insisted on fitting the mechanical fuel pump when so many other cars in the stable used the SU type, though the points version of that is horribly unreliable when not used.

Re: Facet red electric fuel pump.

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:08 pm
by Carledo
You lot are lucky to only have to put up with a bit of ticking!

The high pressure remote pump I have on the (Motronic fuel injected) Carledo whines constantly in service! I have rubber mounted it, but with no soundproofing or rear seat in the car, it is, or was, annoyingly loud! However I got used to it, my brain has adapted and largely blanked it out and I now find it almost reassuring! If it's whining - it's working! And if it stops, I won't have far to look for the cause of the breakdown!

Steve

Re: Facet red electric fuel pump.

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:05 pm
by GTS290N
Sounds like the missus is in the back seat....

Re: Facet red electric fuel pump.

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:16 pm
by Carledo
GTS290N wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:05 pm Sounds like the missus is in the back seat....
If it wasn't for the fact that the car doesn't HAVE a back seat, you could be right!

When I fit a similar pump to the Dolomega, which will be fully trimmed AND soundproofed, I am going to mount the pump externally, probably under the boot floor so the racket won't be inside the car and the airflow can cool it too! I might even make an alloy duct to house it, protect it and ram air past it!

Steve

Re: Facet red electric fuel pump.

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:42 pm
by sprintchris
Got the fuel lines on yesterday, had to use 8mm/.6mm copper, I tried kunifer but proved almost impossible to bend without kinking badly even using a pipe bender.
There's no high pressure, so should be ok, just got to find the convenient point to mount the pump in the axle housing. I have a fuel cut out switch which I'm going to mount on the front inner wing just in case of impact so will hopefully cut out the pump.