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How many splines...

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:04 pm
by xvivalve
...on a 1500HL gearbox input shaft?

Re: How many splines...

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:33 pm
by Carledo
IIRC it's 23, or possibly 21. One of the 2 anyhow!

Steve

Re: How many splines...

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:37 pm
by cliftyhanger
21, I think!
certainly not the 10 of the 3 rail box...

Re: How many splines...

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:43 pm
by xvivalve
OK, how about the 1500TC; was that a different 'box?

Re: How many splines...

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:54 am
by cliftyhanger
Not sure when the changeover happened, but the 3 rail box is the"coarse" spline(10) and the single rail "fine" (21 or so)

Same thing with the bigger engine boxes, but they all have a slightly larger diameter input shaft too.

Re: How many splines...

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:22 am
by xvivalve
I’m aware the 1850 changed from 3 rail to single around ā€˜76, when Dolomite became 1850HL, but with the introduction of the 1500 HL in ā€˜76 was the same gearbox change coincident with the demise of the TC?

Re: How many splines...

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:30 am
by cliftyhanger
I wouldn't rely on car build dates, so many have got swapped about. But I think about 1975, so very likely when 1500TC became dolomite 1500, same as Toledo became 1300 dolomite. But I bet it isn't as easy as that with some crossovers at the factory, and many more since.
Don't be shy, do share why you want to know, or at least some more clues :)

Re: How many splines...

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:59 am
by cleverusername
I think mine was the fine spline one, doesn't the gate on the gearbox give it away?

Re: How many splines...

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:26 am
by xvivalve
Simply parts compatibility between the TC and HL

Okay....

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:51 am
by sprint95m
For the 1500TC (and indeed the Dolomite(1850)) there was an intermediate version between the
original 1500TC and the Dolomite 1500HL, which had amongst its specification the single rail gearbox.

A few years ago in Dolly Mixture Steve Waldenberg did a comparison between two red 1500TCs, which were both P reg,
highlighting these changes.



Ian.

Re: How many splines...

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:48 pm
by yorkshire_spam
I've got a single rail gearbox in bits in a box in the garage.... happy to go and count the splines? But it's from a Spitfire not a Dolomite.... are they the same?

Re: How many splines...

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:01 pm
by MIG Wielder
Hi Alun, I've got the input shaft here from that " bitsa " gearbox I was given. This is the one with the 1850 WH series casing but with 1500 bell-housing and gear-ratios.
That has 20 splines and 17 teeth on the input shaft cog; Just for comparison the brand new 1850 input shaft I have has 23 splines and 19 teeth on the cog; The 1850 one is also rather longer than the 1850 one.
The 1500 shaft is 22.2 mm O.D. on the splined section, the 1850 one is 25.1 mm on the splined section.
Tony.

Re: How many splines...

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:28 pm
by yorkshire_spam
The input shaft from my single rail Spitfire 1500 'box is 22mm OD, 20 Splines

Re: How many splines...

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:48 pm
by xvivalve
yorkshire_spam wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:28 pm The input shaft from my single rail Spitfire 1500 'box is 22mm OD, 20 Splines
Thanks, yes, they're the same as the 1500HL 'box