Bolt part number translation?

For everything to do with Dolomites, Toledos, FWD cars and Dolomite-based kitcars.
Message
Author
User avatar
xvivalve
TDC West Mids Area Organiser
Posts: 13582
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:13 pm
Location: Over here...can't you see me?

Bolt part number translation?

#1 Post by xvivalve »

HU0980

Can anyone give me a specification for this bolt please?
cleverusername
Guest contributor
Guest contributor
Posts: 1560
Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:04 pm

Re: Bolt part number translation?

#2 Post by cleverusername »

HU=setscrew
09=3/8 UNF
80=? This has me confused, it should be the length spec, but they are only suppose to go to 49.

Of course the above is a best guess.
cleverusername
Guest contributor
Guest contributor
Posts: 1560
Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:04 pm

Re: Bolt part number translation?

#3 Post by cleverusername »

xvivalve wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:58 pm HU0980

Can anyone give me a specification for this bolt please?
Could it be 3/8” x 24 UNF Setscrew, which would be HU0908?
User avatar
Toledo Man
Guest contributor
Guest contributor
Posts: 7542
Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:52 pm
Location: Halifax, West Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: Bolt part number translation?

#4 Post by Toledo Man »

Alun, there was THIS thread in the members only section in a similar vein. The answer to your question can be found in the Standard Triumph Hardware Catalogue which lists the specs for nuts, bolts, screws, etc. You can find it on my BT Cloud
Toledo Man

West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ

2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.

"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
User avatar
xvivalve
TDC West Mids Area Organiser
Posts: 13582
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:13 pm
Location: Over here...can't you see me?

Re: Bolt part number translation?

#5 Post by xvivalve »

UNF??

Now that had me checking; this bolt is the Sprint exhaust manifold to head bolt and my '73 parts catalogue has the part number HU0980 but I was certain they should be UNC. Checking the '76 parts catalogue it gives a different part number of HB980... Did the thread size change with the second edition heads?

A 75 catalogue gives HB0980

Can't access your cloud for some reason Dave...?
User avatar
James467
TDC Sprint Registrar
Posts: 1938
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:27 pm
Location: Hampshire

Re: Bolt part number translation?

#6 Post by James467 »

They are UNC, both early and late, I just tested the bolts I have.

I have 5 x (3/8" x 4") bolts.
User avatar
Toledo Man
Guest contributor
Guest contributor
Posts: 7542
Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:52 pm
Location: Halifax, West Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: Bolt part number translation?

#7 Post by Toledo Man »

The links works on my work PC with Google Chrome and I'm not logged into my BT account. It doesn't work with IE9 on the same PC.
Toledo Man

West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ

2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.

"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
User avatar
yorkshire_spam
Guest contributor
Guest contributor
Posts: 996
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:35 pm
Location: Filey, North Yorkshire

Re: Bolt part number translation?

#8 Post by yorkshire_spam »

According to Dave's rather interesting PDF the HU prefix applies to a mixture of UNC/UNF set screws. Unfortunately the offending part number is not listed, with the HU series stopping at HU0972 3/8" UNC @ 2 3/4"

HB0980 on the other hand is listed as 3/8" UNC @ 3 3/4"
Last edited by yorkshire_spam on Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
MIG Wielder
TDC Member
Posts: 2336
Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:52 pm

Re: Bolt part number translation?

#9 Post by MIG Wielder »

Yes, I agree with James but I went a different route.
HB980 = BH506321 which is NLA from Rimmers but is still kept by Moss and John Craddock the Land Rover parts guy.
And yes its a 3/8 UNC x 4 in Bolt. I imagine its a special as the unthreaded section is quite long to accommodate the thickness of the exhaust manifold.
User avatar
yorkshire_spam
Guest contributor
Guest contributor
Posts: 996
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:35 pm
Location: Filey, North Yorkshire

Re: Bolt part number translation?

#10 Post by yorkshire_spam »

MIG Wielder wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:50 pm Yes, I agree with James but I went a different route.
HB980 = BH506321 which is NLA from Rimmers but is still kept by Moss and John Craddock the Land Rover parts guy.
And yes its a 3/8 UNC x 4 in Bolt. I imagine its a special as the unthreaded section is quite long to accommodate the thickness of the exhaust manifold.
Blogger me... BH506321 £4.42 incl VAT from lrdirect.com. That's an expensive bolt! vs moss website @ £2.23
Not original, but Namrick list both 3 1/2" and 4" in 3/8 UNC cap head HT screws.... not sure I'd go down that route though.
Or even nasty grabby seizing stainless? ;-) https://www.westfieldfasteners.co.uk/UN ... nless.html
Image
User avatar
James467
TDC Sprint Registrar
Posts: 1938
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:27 pm
Location: Hampshire

Re: Bolt part number translation?

#11 Post by James467 »

You can get a 3/8 x 4" from Namrick £1.14 plus the VAT.
User avatar
xvivalve
TDC West Mids Area Organiser
Posts: 13582
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:13 pm
Location: Over here...can't you see me?

Re: Bolt part number translation?

#12 Post by xvivalve »

User avatar
xvivalve
TDC West Mids Area Organiser
Posts: 13582
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:13 pm
Location: Over here...can't you see me?

Re: Bolt part number translation?

#13 Post by xvivalve »

3.75 or 4 then?
User avatar
tony g
TDC Member
Posts: 2283
Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:02 pm
Location: Nr Kenilworth

Re: Bolt part number translation?

#14 Post by tony g »

I helicoiled my head to M10 loads of choice :) Not while engine was in the car though :)

Tony
Membership 2014047
User avatar
xvivalve
TDC West Mids Area Organiser
Posts: 13582
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:13 pm
Location: Over here...can't you see me?

Re: Bolt part number translation?

#15 Post by xvivalve »

Post Reply