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Window winding handles

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:45 pm
by new to this
Hi What holds the window winding handles in place ,and how do you remove them

Thanks Dave

Re: Window winding handles

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:58 pm
by geeksteve
Push the door card surrounding it, it'll move back. slide black collar back and you'll see a roll pin through the handle. Poke it out.

Re-assembly is the reversal of removal - only with more swearing and dropping the little pin.

Re: Window winding handles

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:12 pm
by Bish
A good tip I found for getting the infuriating little pin back in when reassembling is to not use the pin at all. Get a wire coat hanger or similar ( I used a thin welding rod ) and half cut it through at the same length of the pin. You then have a long wire to easily feed into the hole in the handle and when you have it in position, bend and snap it off where you made the half cut. It was a revelation for me! :thumbsup:

Re: Window winding handles

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:22 am
by cleverusername
Getting the pin in is easy, just push the card back far enough to expose the hole and then hold it in position with your knees. Use a long nose set of pliers to locate the pin and tap it home.

Re: Window winding handles

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:59 am
by dollyman
Bish wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:12 pm A good tip I found for getting the infuriating little pin back in when reassembling is to not use the pin at all. Get a wire coat hanger or similar ( I used a thin welding rod ) and half cut it through at the same length of the pin. You then have a long wire to easily feed into the hole in the handle and when you have it in position, bend and snap it off where you made the half cut. It was a revelation for me! :thumbsup:
Good tip that Bish, you can then sell the pins to people that have lost theirs :lol: :lol: Personally i use a piece of heat stretched screen wash tube to hold the pin then pull the tubing down. :D

Tony.

Re: Window winding handles

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:16 pm
by new to this
Thanks for the replies , i dont have the pins ,ill have to make some thing up

Dave

Re: Window winding handles

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:16 pm
by new to this
Ive tapped the window winding handle with M4 grub screw , makes is easier to get them on and off

Dave


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Re: Window winding handles

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:13 pm
by GrahamFountain
new to this wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:16 pm Ive tapped the window winding handle with M4 grub screw , makes is easier to get them on and off

Dave
Did the tap go down as was, or did you have to open the hole up any?

Graham

Re: Window winding handles

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:33 pm
by new to this
GrahamFountain wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:13 pm
new to this wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:16 pm Ive tapped the window winding handle with M4 grub screw , makes is easier to get them on and off

Dave
Did the tap go down as was, or did you have to open the hole up any?

Graham
Graham

When you look at the window winding handle theres 4 holes, i just tapped the top one makes it easier to get the tap on the grum scew, no more messing around with the role pin ( m4 fitted the holes there nicely )

Dave

Re: Window winding handles

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:21 am
by PaulB

Re: Window winding handles

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:29 pm
by GrahamFountain
Dave, what length grub screws go in far enough to not foul the surrounds? Also what point did you use, taper or dog?
Also, did you need to keep the spring behind the card, or has that got enough back force on its own to keep the surrounds on the winder shanks?

Graham

Re: Window winding handles

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:03 pm
by new to this
GrahamFountain wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:29 pm Dave, what length grub screws go in far enough to not foul the surrounds? Also what point did you use, taper or dog?
Also, did you need to keep the spring behind the card, or has that got enough back force on its own to keep the surrounds on the winder shanks?

Graham
Graham

I used 6mm length grub screws, i filled down the point on the grub screw so theres enough thread in the handle when you take the handle off the car, every thing else is standard still using the spring behind the door card and the plastic retaining ring ( black one )

Dave

Re: Window winding handles

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:43 pm
by GrahamFountain
Ah right, so it's probably best if the smallest possible length of the grub screw goes into the hole in the shaft, so you screw it back the smallest amount to get it free. That suggests a taper or conical ended screw to me rather than dog ended. I wonder if a 4mm length one will work or if it's necessary to file a 6mm one down.

Also, might be interesting to see if the spring is actually still needed. I'm going to be taking them all off soon to swap the door caps back when I finish varnishing them. And I've got a set of metric taps and dies somewhere.

Graham

Re: Window winding handles

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:43 am
by dollyman
Hi Dave and Graham, i didn't have you both down as nasty people..... Have you spared a thought for when the next owner (not for a long while i hope) tries to get those winder handles off :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tony.

Re: Window winding handles

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:35 pm
by new to this
dollyman wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:43 am Hi Dave and Graham, i didn't have you both down as nasty people..... Have you spared a thought for when the next owner (not for a long while i hope) tries to get those winder handles off :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tony.
:D :D :D :D :twisted: :twisted: