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Well it looks less vauxhall
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 6:17 pm
by ian.stewart
So now I'm waiting for Bits n Bobs stuck somewhere in the internet, what can I get up to especially as the wife is out with the puppy,
I'm a bit funny about the wrong engine logos in the wrong car, bugs the fook out of me, sad I know, so I started thinking about correcting the problem,
managed to acquire a Dolomite sprint Cam cover quite cheaply, and the brain started chewing ideas, mainly in the middle of the night
I ground off the vauxhall logo and tried it on the engine, Nah, thats looked just plain wrong. so with diligent use of drill ,grinder, and files, I attacked the Vauxhall plug cover. followed by hacking a scrap sprint cam cover into bits (Sorry)
eventually cobbled this together, much to my liking,
Re: Well it looks less vauxhall
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:10 pm
by xvivalve
Cultural misappropriation...at its finest!
Re: Well it looks less vauxhall
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:40 pm
by Carledo
I just used a Herald 13/60 boot badge! I even deliberately used an old and well worn one so it looked weathered in keeping with the engine!
Steve
Re: Well it looks less vauxhall
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:52 am
by DoloWIGHTY
Sorry just don't get it!?!
To recap: You don't like the fact that you have put a Vauxhall engine (with their logo on it) into your Triumph car so you are putting a Triumph logo on it despite it being a Vauxhall engine?
Sometimes I think I am living in another world when I read things like this!
Re: Well it looks less vauxhall
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:02 am
by matt of the vivas
Its fine, Ive got a Triumph badge on my Skoda Rapid. No one will notice.
Re: Well it looks less vauxhall
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:45 am
by mahony
Sorry i don't get it either, it's a Vauxhall engine and not a Triumph one so live with it
Re: Well it looks less vauxhall
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:49 pm
by Carledo
Don't know about Ian, I only did it a) to make the rivet counters look twice and b) because I COULD!
I'm perversely proud of my engineering and more than willing to explain it's real ancestry, the badge is just a bit of ironic kitsch! And it works!
Steve
Re: Well it looks less vauxhall
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:25 pm
by ian.stewart
Steves about right, Im the eternal windup, if you can Imagine a rivet counting screw linerupper bumping into me, ......
"Well sir, you obviously know the lineage of Saab, Saab bought engines from who ever would supply them, wether it be Ford, Triumph, General Motors, .... well this was an attempt by Saab to rescue Triumph from the hands of Honda, This is one of the GM engines they used in the 900s re engineered into a SAAB engine called the B204, and this cover is one from one of the engines supplied to Triumph" so this is in fact a homage to the Saab/Triumph linage and a rescue plan that never came to fruition.
I have a long history of windups.......Being an ex racer and time served engineer, one learns never to divulge ones secrets you have built into your car,
Re: Well it looks less vauxhall
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:13 pm
by SprintV8
DoloWIGHTY wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:52 am
Sorry just don't get it!?!
To recap: You don't like the fact that you have put a Vauxhall engine (with their logo on it) into your Triumph car so you are putting a Triumph logo on it despite it being a Vauxhall engine?
Sometimes I think I am living in another world when I read things like this!
He didn’t fit the Vauxhall engine.
He bought it as fitted.
It’s to confuse people that see a Triumph name on what isn’t a Triumph engine.
I’m leaving the Mazda names on my swap.
It’s just a personal choice some get it others don’t.
Re: Well it looks less vauxhall
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:16 pm
by matt of the vivas
I'm happy for the "Vauxhall Vandals" to carry out whatever atonement they feel is needed in order to let them feel less guilty about the desecration they have carried out.....
I will not point out that the correct engine will, in fact, already say"Triumph" on it.....
Re: Well it looks less vauxhall
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:08 pm
by Carledo
ian.stewart wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:25 pm
This is one of the GM engines they used in the 900s re engineered into a SAAB engine called the B204, and this cover is one from one of the engines supplied to Triumph"
Sorry, it isn't! The Redtop is a development by Cosworth of the GM "Family II" 2.0 litre 8v engine, designed entirely in the USA, using (initially) the famous "Coscast" 16v twin cam cylinder head and called the C20XE and later a Vauxhall re-engineered version which became the X20XEV, the notorious Ecotec.
The Saab B204 owes much more of it's ancestry to the slant motor JOINTLY developed by Triumph and Saab in the late 60s. Saab did all the development work that Triumph wouldn't (or couldn't afford to) which resulted in the B204 and it's twin cam siblings. But Saab NEVER supplied any engines or parts BACK to Triumph, the Sprint cam cover is exclusive to the Sprint, as is it's 16v single cam head.
Finally, while it's true that after the GM takeover of Saab, many Saabs became little more than badge engineered Vauxhalls (the 9-3 in particular is on a Cavalier III floorpan and uses the Cav gearbox) the engine was still the Saab developed chain driven twin cam ADAPTED to fit the GM transmission.
It's why I can (and maybe will) put a turbo'd B204 from a 9-3 in front of a Vauxhall Omega RWD 5 speed manual box (which I already have) in the next iteration of the Carledo! It just depends on which motor comes up for the right money first, a B204, or a GM Z20LET! Both will fit with equal ease.
I'll get me anorak and depart now!
Steve
EDIT, thinking about it, I think I just fell into Ian's windup! The statement quoted above (which I carefully destroyed) is just the sort of half BS and half myth that a typical rivet counter would come out with!
Well played sir, I walked right into it!
Re: Well it looks less vauxhall
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:26 pm
by ian.stewart
Carledo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:08 pm
ian.stewart wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:25 pm
This is one of the GM engines they used in the 900s re engineered into a SAAB engine called the B204, and this cover is one from one of the engines supplied to Triumph"
Sorry, it isn't! The Redtop is a development by Cosworth of the GM "Family II" 2.0 litre 8v engine, designed entirely in the USA, using (initially) the famous "Coscast" 16v twin cam cylinder head and called the C20XE and later a Vauxhall re-engineered version which became the X20XEV, the notorious Ecotec.
The Saab B204 owes much more of it's ancestry to the slant motor JOINTLY developed by Triumph and Saab in the late 60s. Saab did all the development work that Triumph wouldn't (or couldn't afford to) which resulted in the B204 and it's twin cam siblings. But Saab NEVER supplied any engines or parts BACK to Triumph, the Sprint cam cover is exclusive to the Sprint, as is it's 16v single cam head.
Finally, while it's true that after the GM takeover of Saab, many Saabs became little more than badge engineered Vauxhalls (the 9-3 in particular is on a Cavalier III floorpan and uses the Cav gearbox) the engine was still the Saab developed chain driven twin cam ADAPTED to fit the GM transmission.
It's why I can (and maybe will) put a turbo'd B204 from a 9-3 in front of a Vauxhall Omega RWD 5 speed manual box (which I already have) in the next iteration of the Carledo! It just depends on which motor comes up for the right money first, a B204, or a GM Z20LET! Both will fit with equal ease.
I'll get me anorak and depart now!
Steve
EDIT, thinking about it, I think I just fell into Ian's windup! The statement quoted above (which I carefully destroyed) is just the sort of half BS and half myth that a typical rivet counter would come out with!
Well played sir, I walked right into it!
OOOOPs
Re: Well it looks less vauxhall
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:37 pm
by naskeet
I have a Vauxhall Astra Mk.1 Estate Car rear-window wiper system (albeit tweeked by yours truly) on the rear hatch of my 1973 VW Type 2 motor-caravan. To the untrained eye, it could be mistaken for a rare, expensive, Volkswagen, factory-fitted option.
I also have a Vauxhall Cavalier Mk.2 modified fuse & relay box in the same vehicle.
The air-pressurised, windscreen-washer reservoir for the rear-window washers, originates from a VW 411/412 Variant.
WELL...
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:25 pm
by sprint95m
To use football speak......
Carledo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:40 pmI just used a Herald 13/60 boot badge!
I am gutted, really gutted to discover it is actually the
Triumph badge that you used,
an opportunity to look oh so cool surely has been missed
?
Ian