Dolomite - Broadspeed

[kojac77]

I am looking for anyone who can help Id a Dolomite Spring recently located in Australia . This car is English (white car) and was imported in the mid to late seventies. It could be aboradspeed car as it has the brodspeed colours still evident from the boot line right up to the bonnet. Has anyone got photos of these cars so that we can try to match them up. CAMS have condfirmed we have the right log book number which is actually attached to the car. We just need more info to Id the right car. I alrady have a Australian group C Dolomite which is raced here in historics. Any help appreciated.

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[feralsprint]

I seem to remeber that only 1 car was from Broadspeed and that was the first one imported by Ron Hodgson and that all the rest were locally built, I believe that the Lamors have the broadspeed car try and run the VIN through the list and see what year it was built, might give you some idea <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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Jon

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[kojac77]

That was my understanding too. However, there seems to have been one which snuck under the radar! Its genuine, even our governing body have confirmed that the information I have so far given them is on the up. Question is who brought here and when, it was log booked and fortunately (and by sheer coincidence and luck we saw a CAMS sticker on the roll cage, and after careful forensic study we were able to determine the log book number. We are concerned now of course not to damage this vital bit of data as it is quite fragile after some thirty years. Its a genuine all white car just as the English cars, may or may not have had a vinyl roof in the beginning just as with some early Sprints in the UK . NTL, cutting through the paint has revealed the paint all of which is in the right places and right couours, only exception is LHS rear door, which is a replacement (yellow - which makes sense in Oz). There are other key bits of data which CAMS is also confirming after Easter for us, but some photos of early Dollie racers in UK and OZ for that matter are rare indeed, I know just from the work I have done on my other Triumph race cars.I know the Lamour well enough to seek their advice as needed, I am also in touch with Ron Missen who built the Hodgson Cars and indeed imported the BTCC car from Broadspeed. I know Gerald Kay and am working with a number of people especially in the smaller class area that were around in those days. Thanks for your response<br>
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[sprint43]

Officially there was only one Sprint built by Broadspeed brought into Australia and that is my car. Each of the others built by Ron Hodson/Ron Missen was a made from a Leyland Australia imported road car which would have been Mimosa. Who did you buy the car off? As we can most likely fill in the missing info once we know the origin of the car. CAMs should have record of the owner when the Log Book was issued. As for the original colour of the shell dont discount that after 30 yeasr it hasn't been re-shelled from a white car- even an 1850 shell.<br>
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Send me an e-mail with the details and I will reply off line- sprint@netspace.net.au<br>
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Philip

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[Carsreunited]

If you can be patient, I will try and speak to someone who has alot of original broadspeed data. He wasn't too keen on me borrowing it last year but he knows me slightly better now. Hopefully, I'll be seeing him in a few weeks time. Short of that, if you can send me what you have, I could ask him to see if it appears in any of the papers he has.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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Scott<br>
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[kojac77]

Guys, thanks for the info it really helps, but my real interest is UK based cars. Phil, hi mate, your car as I understand it, is the Laing-Peach /Graham Moore car which came 10th outright, 3rd in class - Bathurst 75. Thats according to Ron Missen anyway. He says that car was the import car, except that that car at Bathurst in 75 was yellow - did you paint it white? Or did someone else. Missen also says the next two Hodgson cars were built from Aussie cars, copies of the UK car if you like. The first one, the English car was sold off, and may have gone to Alexandra Surplice. I am checking on this. I thought Bob Morris had that car too, but Ron says absolutely not. In 75 Bobbie drove with with Gardiner I think, anyway it was a Holden, and later he drove one of the 'new' Dollie cars?<br>
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I have got the log book number of the discovered car and I have confirmed with CAMS its straight from the UK, and is for all intents and purposes a white car, further confirming its origins as English and not built from an Ozzie car. Further the condition of this car is that its is not a re-shell. Indeed CAMS has confirmed the numbers and the car as English. The fact that the log book number is actually attached (by CAMS) to the roll cage dating back as far as 1982 says somethiing for the originality of thre car also. We can see a couple of replaced doors and other bits and pieces, but the paint under the layers is a dead give away. <br>
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So, I am not suggesting this car is any of the cars we currently have on the radar as in Australia. I said earlier, CAMS have confirmed it is an authentic UK car. However, the burning question is who's was it and when did it race in UK? Accordingly I am looking for works car photos from as far back as is possible. It does not seem to be a Unipart car, however. The car seems more likely a Broaspeed car due to the mechanicals - all of which again I have confirmed with Ron Missen as being very similar to those of the Broadspeed car he brought to Australia.<br>
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Patience is my middle name 'carsreunited', and your help is most appreciated, I am preparing a dossier, if I could contact you off-line it would be most helpful, as you will appreciate I am concerned to get the facts correct before we go too far, and confidentiality wopuld be an issue. Unfortunately it seems not much remains in the way of pictorial stuff, if it did the car being so unique would stick out a mile, as it has a distinctive feature. Also I expect to have further data this week which will assist I hope.<br>
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I do hope your connections at Broad speed will understand this is a genuine attempt to establish the true history of this car and restore it simialr to the car I alrady have, and those of Phil, and others.

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[Carsreunited]

I'm not sure how my link is linked with broadspeed other than I have seen folders full of original data relating to pre-race tuning for the Rouse and Dron cars. <br>
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I've no idea as to whether these cars are still ine existance (in one form or another) but I would imagine they were identified by VIN number. The 1974 Belgium Works Team Spa car that Mark Field has shows a vin number and that's about it.<br>
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Mail me off-line: scott at clothfair dot co dot uk.<br>
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By the way Phil/Mark. Any info I do get I will gladly pass on to you as well. I don't speak to the guy regularly and I didn't want to start stalking him over all of this!<br>
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Scott

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[Mark Larmour]

To the best of our knowledge there was 2 Broadspeed built Sprints brought to Australia. <br>
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Philips car was brought into Australia by Ron Hodgson Leyland, raced by and then owned by Bob Morris, then sold to Alexandra Surplice and then bought by Philip in 1981. <br>
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Hodgson painted the car yellow to match the locally sold cars then they were repainted white (Leyland colour scheme) for 1976/7 season?<br>
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The other Broadspeed car was owned by Jim Laing-Peach (and I believe that this car won its class in the 1974 BTCC) and is still in storage in country NSW to the best of my knowledge.<br>
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My race car was the last Sprint built by Ron Missen for Ron Hodgson Leyland Team to use at Bathurst 1977 for Andy Rouse and Tim Schenken. The car was never raced due to eligibility issues and the team disbanded and cars sold off at the end of 1977.<br>
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To the best of my knowledge all the Sprints that have ever raced in Australia has been fully accounted for and history was know, so what is so special about this car????????<br>
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I have personally driven/raced 3 of the original Group C Sprints and currently know of the where abouts and history of 6 cars, 4 in NSW and 2 in Victoria.<br>
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Mark.<br>
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[Paul Roberts]

Very interesting thread. I appreciate your desire to confidentiality re further information at this stage, but please keep those of us interested in the racing cars and history in the picture when you know more, including what happens to the car from here. Good luck.<br>
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Paul Roberts

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