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Size of the horse

#1 Post by SprintV8 » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:08 am

They used to measure 1Horse power,<br>
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May be why these's so much difference with Rolling road figure's

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sit down and make yourself comfy

#2 Post by 1300dolly » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:42 am

horsepower is defined as work done over time.the definition of one hp is 3300 lb-ft/minute. Originated by J Watt in 1815, inventor of the steam train (and giver of unit of power the watt) To sell his engines he needed a way to rate the power .He work out that<br>
A work horse attached to a mill walks a 24ft diameter circle pulling a force of 180 lbs.thehorse makes 144 circles/hour= speed of 181 ft/minute x 180 lbs of force = 32580 ft-lbs/minute<br>
So therefore one hp is 32580 ft-lb/minute<br>
This was taken by all as the way to rate engine power<br>
Hope this clears it up for you.<br>
Oh early engine makers cheated by removing generators, waterpumps etc to increase the lb-ft,sorry hp reading.<br>
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Re: sit down and make yourself comfy

#3 Post by SprintV8 » Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:09 am

But how many hands high was the horse.<br>
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Are we talking a BIG Shire horse.<br>
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Like the one's used to pull plough's in the good old day's.<br>
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Usefull bit of info mind,<br>
Never knew it was James Watt.<br>


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#4 Post by 2F45T4U » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:36 pm

I thought it was 22,000 lb a foot per minute.<br>
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And wasn't it a mine pony?

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#5 Post by davepoth » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:43 pm

33,000 lbf/m and it was an amalgamation of horses.

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#6 Post by 1300dolly » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:03 pm

As far as i know it was never recorded what the horses where as he wrote work horses of the kind that work the mill stones but i guess the different types of materials offer different resistances whilst being milled so it was one mans oppinion and most people thought he must be right as no one else know any better. <br>
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33000

#7 Post by 1300dolly » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:09 pm

p.s you wre right dave as its commonly know to be 3300 lb/ft as thats what it was rounded to to ease the calcalation so the higher the output the more the error margin is.<br>
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Re: 33000

#8 Post by davepoth » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:28 pm

Rumour has it that watt overestimated the power a of a horse by about a third (i.e. a 2hp engine can do the work of three horses) just so he could make sure his steam engines performed well against the expectations of customers.

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ummm

#9 Post by 1300dolly » Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:41 am

clever marketing ploy just hope ford dont try to retro sue his family:rollin<br>
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