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Chavs....

#1 Post by 2F45T4U » Sat May 13, 2006 11:56 pm

My home town is ruined because of the vermin!<br>
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I just can't wait to leave for uni now...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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Other than calling the Police and waiting 2 days for them to turn up and tell you "theres nothing we can do"... And of course killing them all what can we do to reclaim our town?<br>
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I've had years of trouble off them for basically sticking up for myself... If this disease isn't cured theres no future for this country <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :evil --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->

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Re: Chavs....

#2 Post by SMIFTER » Sun May 14, 2006 8:09 am

it is a nationwide epedemic. I'm not sure what the cure is.<br>
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It seems in most communities (if your can call it communities) now it is now considered socially acceptable to be a law breaking benefit cheating scumbag if you can get away with it so what chance have the kids got of any morality? The breeding of chavs is no longer restricted to the parts of town where taxi drivers fear to tread either. The idea of a family unit now only appears to happen in soap operas and people no longer respect the concept of marriage, they just want a big wedding so they can flash the cash which will end up in divorce 2 years later when they find someone else to cop off with with more cash for a bigger flashier wedding. <br>
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We've given one of the little offspring (17, baseball cap, baggy jeans, spoilt spotty middle class white boy who talks with a jamaican accent) the chance of a start in a career in engineering to lead him away from the macdonalds career that now seems inevitable. All we get is skyving, a bad attitude and plain lazyiness in return for giving him the chance to aspire to a well paid interesting career. But its not his fault, he's the child of a couple of failed marriages and spent most of his childhood with childminders and relatives so his parents could go along with the 'must have the latest plasma TV and 2 holidays abroad a year' lifestyle. So he's been giving everything he wants all his life except moral guidance and doesnt understand the concept of a fair days work for a fair days pay. Sadly he's actually a nice kid and we have a bit of a laugh but his constant skyving means HR have to get involved and give him a first strike after just 6 months of employment.<br>
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When I see them hanging around drinking white lightning I actually pity them in the knowledge they have probably had f*cked up childhoods.<br>
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I fear for what they will become. The plus side is there is a massive skills shortage in this country and because I went through the pain of a crap salary when I was in my late teens and early twenties its now getting to the stage where I can name my price for my services. And if I make adjustments to my lifestyle we can afford to be a proper family unit and for Mrs S to be a full time mum. Again that's hard work, much harder than going to work and paying a childminder but if you put the effort in you will reap the rewards.<br>
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So just pity them Adam, you are going to Uni, they will probably still be doing the same thing when you graduate whilst you go and have a decent future and you may have the opportunity to leave this hellhole for another country (I fancy new zealand or canada myself).<br>
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Re: Chavs....

#3 Post by 2F45T4U » Sun May 14, 2006 1:22 pm

Last night two of my mates parked up in a car park in the 'wrong' area... There was a gang of about 20 of them and three of them approached the car, one behind the car so he couldn't reverse off and one beside each front door. Accused my mate of sticking his finger up at him, which he didn't then hit him and the other boy hit the pasenger twice.... <br>
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These &*%$£ need a good kick in... In a group there scared of nothing and will fight any one as long as its a ratio of chavs to innocents of about 20 to 2! A few of them beat up a 50 year old guy with arthritus last year! <br>
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Re: Chavs....

#4 Post by alun n » Sun May 14, 2006 9:11 pm

Its always been the same Adam, spivs, teddy boys, mods, rockers, skinheads, punks...call them what you want but basically the uneducated of each generation will follow the trend of the time. Sadly with the decline of manufacturing base in this country to keep them busy/tired, the decline of moral standards, the substitution of self esteem for self respect and the welfare state which provides no incentive or need to follow a decent and productive life path has all helped this current generation to develop more than their share. <br>
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I am a good friend of a bloke locally who was made redundant last year; he is a hard working family man who has my utter respect. A manual worker who relies on his skills. He spent a short while on benefit between jobs and only did so for the sake of his family; it humiliated him. He soon found new work at a good rate of pay, but sadly he has calculated that in return for his 40 hours of graft each week he is just £22 a week better off! Had he not been married to the mother of his children they would have been better off on benefit. With circumstances such as this do you wonder why people chose not to work? Many do not and therefore have 40 hours a week to idly fill hanging around in car parks harrassing folk, drinking to oblivion and creating havoc thereafter.<br>
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Do not get angry Adam, instead pity them. They will still be doing similar when you are waged up and enjoying life (and sadly paying contribution to keep these toerags in that manner). Be thankful you have the resourcefulness and support of a proper family. Be thankful you are inteligent enough to know the difference!<br>
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I could refer back to a recent long running thread here...but I'd better not. There is however a well known prayer, the prayer of serenity which basically goes along the lines of:<br>
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Give me the courage to attend the things which I can change, the peace to accept the things I cannot change and the wisdom to know the difference between the two.<br>
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With or without religion, a daily reminder of that simple statement can calm you down no end...write it down somewhere

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Re: Chavs....

#5 Post by 2F45T4U » Sun May 14, 2006 10:56 pm

Yer my Parents keep telling me similar things...<br>
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The way they hang out is always around 2 or 3 cars whilst the kids stand around them. Now I think that we get about 35 mates and mates of mates put them in about 15 cars and go turn up at 'there' car park (by the local shop across the road from the park<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ) when there in full flow and just surround them. Shut your engines off and just sit there in your car. Nothing sinister but they'll know if 'we' wanted we'd easily put up a fight <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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'We' could just drop it, like everyone else but I think that convoy would be all it takes.<br>
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Why fight...

#6 Post by alun n » Mon May 15, 2006 9:27 am

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Use the law....

#7 Post by Jon Tilson » Mon May 15, 2006 9:57 am

What we have reported here is a case of common assault leading to actual bodilly harm. Can your friends identify the miscreants? Get the incident reported to the police.<br>
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In cases like this a good martial arts course or self defence cousre isnt a bad thing to be in to. Fighting your way out should always be a last resort but most chav's are all mouth and no trousers. It doesnt take much training to know how to bring the first one down with a well aimed kick to kneecaps or goolies and be instantly ready for the 2nd...take him down too and the rest will run I guarantee...<br>
Of course its always better to run yourself and in this case maybe reversing over the chav would have been a better idea...<br>
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You all know my religious convictions by now but Ive always consdiered it my duty to teach my kids how to handle themselves if the going gets tough...<br>
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CHAVs

#8 Post by dollybird72 » Mon May 15, 2006 10:03 am

Adam<br>
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Lots of 'CHAVs' in the town where I live; most are harmless (despite the meaning of the acronym) but have a particular style of dress - usually tracksuits, baseball caps & thick gold rope chains (men). Women usually have typical spiral perm, huge gold hoop earrings (that a small dog could jump through) and matching tracksuits to their boyfriends (they are never married of course). Many can be found on a Friday night at the local KFC car park; revving the engines on their modified Vauxhall corsas and novas and blasting their stereos with the doors wide open.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> The women usually have about 3 children (by 5 different fathers) all under the age of 5 and of course are on benefits galore.<br>
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Mr N seems to be in a very philosophical mood this morning so I will chime in with this little ditty for you to remember "Anger is only 1 letter away from danger".<br>
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BTW, think that Samurai must have nicked that proverb from Mr Aesop and his fable about the tree and the reeds!<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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Here is the modern day version of the Prayer of Serenity for you: -<br>
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Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept,and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I had to kill today because they pi55ed me off.<br>
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And also, help me to be careful of the toes I step on <br>
today as they may be connected to the a55 that I may have to kiss tomorrow.<br>
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Help me to always give 100% at work....<br>
12% on Monday<br>
23% on Tuesday<br>
40% on Wednesday<br>
20% on Thursday<br>
5% on Fridays<br>
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And help me to remember.....<br>
When I'm having a really bad day, <br>
and it seems that people are trying to pi55 me off,<br>
that it takes 42 muscles to frown and only 4 to extend my middle finger and tell them to bite me!<br>
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#9 Post by algtj » Mon May 15, 2006 12:26 pm

What you have to ask yourself here is, are they really worth doing time for?<br>
Sods law states that the moment you lift a fist, you will get caught.<br>
Not worth it says I, go to Uni forget them as you are better than that.<br>
Wish I had all the advice on here when I was younger, mind you 20 years ago I would'nt have listened.<br>
Why? I was too busy drinking white lightning, picking fights and trying to get laid!!! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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Al W

#10 Post by dollybird72 » Mon May 15, 2006 12:36 pm

So 20 years hasn't changed you much then?????<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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Hope your lovely wife/child/dog/cat are all okay.<br>
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Re: Al W

#11 Post by alun n » Mon May 15, 2006 2:42 pm

Jon, having trained in and later taught a martial arts the first thing I would do is not park in that car park. Somewhat rusty having been lapsed for about 9 years now I still consider myself to be 'quite handy'; I know where to aim and how hard to twist, but first and foremost I use awareness to avoid the situation before it arises. I haven't had to hurt anyone for a long time now; neither have I had to endure the cold sweat of 'what ifs' after the event.<br>
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My nephew was accosted in ashford a short while ago by a group congregating around a bench; result a thick lip. I promised to teach him how to avoid an incoming fist. Without the benefit of knowing by second nature what to do after the first fist had been avoided such knowledge would merely expose him to a further aggravated situation. To avoid the fist, cross over the road until the group has been avoided and at close quarters. The lad who hit him was younger and smaller than him, but like the hyenas they are he was with his bigger older mates who he was trying to impress. Benchmarking of prowess by wimps like this often means they have some sort of weapon concealed ...just in case. A good smack in the face back may have just ridiculed him infront of his mates, but it probably wouldn't. That type best avoided. <br>
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When I was a teenager there were few peers who would have stabbed me without a second thought, today it is sadly different, they come from the planet playstation where they learn their morals, how to drive, diction, rules of combat etc etc<br>
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Report the situation to the police, even preventing you from getting out of a car is something to be reported. Without such offences being registered it just makes the figures look good. Nothing is likely to happen from the report but it will remain on the books as unsolved and with enough of these even tony and crony will have to listen rather that pat themselves/each other on the back.

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#12 Post by george » Mon May 15, 2006 6:40 pm

having met good old lou ferrigno a while back he was a victim of a similar type of harasment when he was a young lad thats why he started training bet they look on in awe at what he built himself into (awsome size when you stand next to him 6.5 / 22 stone, ripped) no chav would atack him i dare say (when he turns green)<br>
and as of the mighty oak he was my mates traning partner in golds california back in the seventies and features in that well known movie classic pumping iorn<br>
and is now govenor of california !!

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Re:new laws

#13 Post by Stan Part » Mon May 15, 2006 7:26 pm

Listened with interest to the radio news today about the introduction of a new phone service called 101.<br>
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It is mean't to relieve the 999 service of non emergency calls and it is designed for people to be able to report anti - social behaviour, noisy neighbours, road racing/driftin' and Chavs etc(well they didn't say Chavs, but it was mentioned).<br>
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Whilst it sounds a great idea I wonder if the top brass are really informed that there simply isn't enough coppers to go round to enforce this or even follow up every call?

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Re: Re:new laws

#14 Post by alun n » Mon May 15, 2006 9:36 pm

Sadly no, its been proposed because muppets waste time ringing 999 to tell someone their bin hasn't been emptied or the number 45 is 35 minutes late!

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calling 101

#15 Post by 1300dolly » Mon May 15, 2006 9:59 pm

but they forgot to mention it will cost 10 pence to call 101.<br>
so will this stop the unwanted calls or will people call 999 to save their pennies.<br>
i called the polie once on the non emergency no. to report a car with the door open and a handbag on the seat as i didnt want to be seen touching the car. i was advised to take the bag to the local station!!!!! yeh, like the owner would belive im a good samaritan when they walked around the corner and saw me taking the bag out of the car. so the bag was just left there instead (i did shut the door though whilst still on the phone to miss helpfull.)<br>
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