Vauxhall XE Engine Conversion

[Carsreunited]

Dave Mac props? Darren swears by him I believe and mine was done there. Something in the current DM about him too.<br>
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Keep plugging away. Would welding in a gearbox tunnel cover to the bulkhead/floorpan give you the strength you may have lost?

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[algtj]

Thats right Scott, Graham (from work) is going to dig his number out for me. Will email it to you Smifter....<br>
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[SMIFTER]

Thanks Al<br>
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I can get his details from DM - I havent sourced anyone locally so I might give Dave Mac a go - just need to raise the funds now -shouldnt be difficult with help from ebay!!!<br>
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<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Would welding in a gearbox tunnel cover to the bulkhead/floorpan give you the strength you may have lost? <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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It probably would actually - plus if I use 16 gauge plate on the prop tunnel it should be up to the job. I'll have to make cut outs in the tunnel though for the clutch adjustment (cheapo cable clutch!) and gearbox oil filler. If ever I need to remove the gearbox it'll have to be an engine and box out together job - unlike a sprint there is loads of space to do that with an xe.<br>
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On a similar subject - <br>
The crappy bit of metal spot welded onto the bulkhead which sits on top of the gearbox tunnel was barely attached and almost fell off despite not being rotten! I feel some more reinforcing on the way! I might get the hang of MIG welding by the end if this project!

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[sebking]

Reco Prop in Luton.<br>
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Made me a lurvly prop for the spitty

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[rich]

smifter was reading though you're posts and good luck with you're quest.<br>
as the title suggests i noticed you're fitting the phantom grippy thing, have you got any info on the said item , have been doing a bit of research as its capture my imagination

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[SMIFTER]

sebking - I have been recommended reco prop by someone else, I think I'll give them and Dac Macs a call and see what they can offer.<br>
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Rich - thanks for the support. I'm determined for this project to be successful even if it is a little rough round the edges!<br>
Plenty of info on the phantom grip is on <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.phantomgrip.com" target="top">www.phantomgrip.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->. I bought mine from <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cambridgemotorsport.com/" target="top">Cambridge Motorsport</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> - They seem a decent bunch. Its the TR6 fitment unit for a Sprint Axle. Once you have the diff out its easy to fit, took me about 20 minutes! Its cheap for an LSD (if it works), but expensive for what it is basically 2 fag packet sized blocks of metal and 4 springs. I'm hoping it works but if it doesnt Phantom Grip will be hearing from me!<br>
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G

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[mattyd]

How did you get the throttle bodies to work? i am currently building a kit car and am using a c20xe engine, i was going to run it on dellort twin 40s because could not afford throttle bodies and believe that they work best with this engine. Is there much improvement when using throttle bodies instead of carbs and what gains do you get (power, response etc). Do you need to change any jets etc? also did you make the manifold from scratch and how?<br>
Another question is because i am also mounting the engine rwd, i also need a sump! i'm currently trying to source one from an opel manta but struggling! if you now anywhere that i might find one that would be much appreciated.<br>
Any information is welcome, many thanks matt.

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[SMIFTER]

er, I havent got anywhere near as far as the throttle bodies - I have much more fundamental stuff to do first like having a car that stays together at speed and stops!<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> From what I can gather TB's don't give much power advantage over carbs but they are more tunable amd flexible and can flow a lot more air without lack of low speed torque unlike big carbs due to accurate fuelling. Plus if you tune the engine its just a matter of remapping the ecu. I'm still undecided whether to use TB's or Dellortos at the moment - purely through fear of the unknown.<br>
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If you can afford it (i cant!) dry sump it. <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.sbdev.co.uk" target="top">SBD</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> (http://www.sbdev.co.uk) are the daddies when it comes to stuff like dry sump kits for these engines but they dont come cheap. They have some useful fact sheets on the site including info on how to modify oil baffles to suit rwd applications.<br>
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If you are using a wet sump it depends where you need the oil pan to be. If the pan is at the front I think a Carlton 1.8/2.0 sump is the one to have (I think thats what mine was but I'm not sure as it came from a Sunbeam). If the oil pan is at the back then its a Manta sump - if you can find one.<br>
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Alternatively <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.yukspeed.com" target="top">Yukspeed</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> sell fabricated steel big wing sumps for either configuration at a decent price.<br>
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Graeme<br>


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Featherweight 1974 Dolomite Sprint - Soon to be XE'd, NOS'd, Megasquirted and 5 linked Lash up to scare myself (and my wallet) senseless<br>
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2004 Smart Roadster (company car!!) - 698cc of turbo'd adrenaline fuelled rollerskate - destined to classic status thanks to Daimler Chrysler bean counters.<br>
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1997 Audi A4 2.6 to chill out after the above and fill with baby products.....<br>
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2005 Trek 1400 (ok its not a car but still fast) - <br>
a bit like Lance Armstrong but slower and fatter</p><i></i>

[mattyd]

Cheers. I think i will opt for dellorto's too, have already bought some weber's off e-bay but are in poor condition and are not matched, so going to sell them and spend a bit more on some well maintained dellorto's. Apparently they give better bhp up top and respond better at low rev's to so looks the way to go.<br>
As with the big wing sump i will just keep looking round scrappies, but they are getting rare so may have to fork out for a new one!<br>
Thanks for your input,<br>
matt

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[SMIFTER]

or you could buy this<br>
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<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Opel-Manta-1-8S-S ... dZViewItem" target="top">cgi.ebay.co.uk/Opel-Manta-1-8S-Sump-Fits-20XE-20LET_W0QQitemZ4617271328QQcategoryZ10404QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->

<p><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.smifter1971.pwp.blueyonder.c ... >Smifter's Dolomite Sprint Website</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>
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Featherweight 1974 Dolomite Sprint - Soon to be XE'd, NOS'd, Megasquirted and 5 linked Lash up to scare myself (and my wallet) senseless<br>
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2004 Smart Roadster (company car!!) - 698cc of turbo'd adrenaline fuelled rollerskate - destined to classic status thanks to Daimler Chrysler bean counters.<br>
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1997 Audi A4 2.6 to chill out after the above and fill with baby products.....<br>
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2005 Trek 1400 (ok its not a car but still fast) - <br>
a bit like Lance Armstrong but slower and fatter</p><i></i>

[LewisK]

Use bike carbs - much better than dellortos or webers, cheaper, don't fall off tune and much simpler.<br>
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Bogg brothers will make you a manifold and supply you with a set of rebuilt, refreshed carbs with correct jettings for 300 quid, all in.<br>
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Eat that, pansy Webers!

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<!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="font-size:xx-small;"><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Crazy! I mean like so many positive waves, we can't lose! You're on!</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p206.ezboard.com/bthetriumphdolo ... >LewisK</A> at: 28/2/06 6:23 pm<br></i>

[2litre e]

good luck with the xe conversion, seems to be going well.mine on a winter break for a while. someone was on about getting a manta sump, don't bother, get the one from yukspeed. because its made from steel you can cut it and weld it and hit it with a hammer. i bought a manta one( both are about £120) and had to pay to get it welded when i needed to lose a wing. they will even leave it unwelded so you can tinker with it and weld it youself when your happy with the final shape.

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[2litre e]

notice you were after a prop shop, i used one in bristol, the guy makes props for all sorts of wonderful things, he'll also be welding my halfshafts when i get all the stuff together. i had a new end for the manta gbox new tubing and uj on the diff end, cost £200. he's on feeder road.

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[1300dolly]

Mr 2litre.<br>
Are you not on the wrong forum?<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
Feeder road.. I used to work for Armstong security who where on that road.<br>
Justyn<br>


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[MaddMart]

I used to work just off the Feeder Road...but we digress!

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