my back end feels a bit "boaty"

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baked bean coloured dolly · #1 Post by **baked bean coloured dolly** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:00 pm

had the car outside my house today to do some welding (lots of) and when i was driving it back to its garage i came off the verge and the back end seemed to float to the left and right im not too sure what this is im used to driving a mini so the back end on the dolly is a bit alien to me.

David6214 · #2 Post by **David6214** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:03 pm

Sounds like worn shock absorbers to me....or as a silly question, are the wheel nuts tight?

1981 1500 HL -daily driver 
1980 Inca Sprint - high days and holidays (and any other excuse) 
1978 Inca Sprint - on ebay from 19:30 12th Sept 130026460130 
1978 Yellow 1850 auto sprint-notvery-alike - nasty shunt - undecided 
1973 Mimosa Sprint - sold, awaiting collection beginning of October 
tbc Project car for winter rebuild

rich · #3 Post by **rich** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:30 pm

is this not the dreaded rear wheel steer syndrone. 
 
rear bushes shot<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":(">

Leeds Sprint · #4 Post by **Leeds Sprint** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:32 am

Could be the shocks, but the bushes are a far more likely culprit. It's probably worth doing them together though. 
 
That's a scarry feeling. I first noticed the problem on my 1850 when I had to let off the throttle while travelling at high speed on the motorway. This created some serious unstability at the back, just as you described. A sharp pull in one direction, followed by a correction on the other direction as the throttle is reaplied. 
 
I'm saving up cash to get shocks and bushes sorted for my car, but please be careful with yours at speed. I rekon if you had to swerve to avoid an obstacle while letting off the throttle things could go a bit wrong. 
 
Good Luck 
 
Chris

MaddMart · #5 Post by **MaddMart** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:02 am

Rear tie bar bushes!

Martin 
 
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davepoth · #6 Post by **davepoth** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:31 am

Tie bar bushes are the most likely suspact, as Mart says. Take a look underneath the car at all the bits of rubber in the suspension though, as if some of them are bad it's likely that the other ones will be too, especially if they are still the original ones.

Richard the old one · #7 Post by **Richard the old one** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:32 pm

I only read this after I had added the note about driving a 1500SE this evening with shot rear tie rod bushes. I certainly would not drive a car in that state.

Toledo Man · #8 Post by **Toledo Man** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:21 am

I'm hoping to rebush Snowdrop's rear suspension when I rebuild the rear axle. I just need a replacement diff, a slide hammer and a hub puller. I might have to made do with an old wheel and my lump hammer instead.

Toledo Man 
 
1974 Toledo 2-door (currently a spares car for Snowdrop) 
1973 1500fwd (Baby Blue slowly being recommissioned) 
1971 1500fwd (spares car for Baby Blue & future donor for the "Stretch 1500" project) 
1983 Acclaim HL (Becky, my daily driver) 
1977 Dolomite 1300 (Snowdrop, just failed the MoT - AAARRGGHHHH!!!!!)

baked bean coloured dolly · #9 Post by **baked bean coloured dolly** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:19 pm

how hard is it to change the bushes and do they cost a lot and dont worry the most the car is driven is about 300 yards and it runs on three cylinders and has no back box so i wont be doing no motorway driving just yet.

David6214 · #10 Post by **David6214** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:28 pm

bushes are 7.74 from rimmers, I guess thats per bush. looks like two per side from the diagram. Should the tie bar be done at the same time? 
 
Part num ULC1580 
 
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1981 1500 HL -daily driver 
1980 Inca Sprint - high days and holidays (and any other excuse) 
1978 Inca Sprint -For Sale- Ebay 130026460130 
1978 Yellow 1850 auto sprint-notvery-alike - nasty shunt - undecided 
1973 Mimosa Sprint - sold, awaiting collection beginning of October 
1977 1850 HL - Winter Project Car

baked bean coloured dolly · #11 Post by **baked bean coloured dolly** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:46 pm

that price is for the trailing arm yeah? i thought some one in here said tie bar bushes or should i just say sod it and do the lot and i looked at the price of the poly bushes and the price isnt much different............so many things to do so little money to use although the misses has said we need to get the car on the road for october so i may need a couple of things i dont really need hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil"> .

David6214 · #12 Post by **David6214** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:18 pm

No its £7.74 for the trailing arm bush..

1981 1500 HL -daily driver - or not as suspension is overly low on one side 
1980 Inca Sprint - high days and holidays (and any other excuse) 
1978 Inca Sprint - SOLD - awaiting collection details.... 
1978 Yellow 1850 auto sprint-notvery-alike - nasty shunt - undecided 
1973 Mimosa Sprint - sold, awaiting collection beginning of October 
1977 1850 HL - Winter Project Car

mbellinger · #13 Post by **mbellinger** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:21 pm

Funny - I asked exactly this question of Malc at TDCIR as I need a set for the rear end of my 1500TC. 
 
Rimmers price for a rear axle set (trailing arms and tie bars) is over sixty quid, and I was baulking at that on a car that only cost me £60 in the first place. 
 
Malc unhesitatingly recommended Chris Witor. I have not spoken to Chris yet about price but I have never heard a bad word about him or his business and if its good enough for the Club spares officer, its good enough for me. 
 
I will report back to the board with costs etc in due course.

Martin 
 
1968 Triumph 1300FWD 
1975 Triumph 1500TC Auto 
1989 Honda Civic 1300 Auto 
2006 Mondeo 2.0 Ghia X Auto 
2002 Renault Scenic

LewisK · #14 Post by **LewisK** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:31 pm

Having used some of the CW stuff, it really is lovely and similarly, never heard a bad word. 
 
The only time I didn't use him when was I was pricing up rebuilding the lower steering joint, was about 16 quid for all the bushes in poly, or 24 quid for a completely new joint <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

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davepoth · #15 Post by **davepoth** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:13 am

Re the rear tie bars, I was once booting it out of a 90 degree bend in the sprint when the threads sheared on one of the tie bars. That was "interesting" to say the least...<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D">

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