1500TC Fuel Pump

[mbellinger]

My "new" 1500TC requires a fuel pump. It is a 1975 on an N registration.<br>
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I duly ordered part number RKC 1624 from Rimmers which arrived overnight and is clearly nothing like the device currently fitted to the car.<br>
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Perusing Rimmers and several other web sites gives the result that there appear to be two listed pumps for this model. The first is RKC 1624 as above, which is clearly incorrect. The other is listed for 'late' 1500 TC's and is TKC 3417. I would not have described my 1500 as 'late' as they are seen on P and even R registrations. The 1500HL which effectively repolaced the model was not introduced until Sept 1976, therefore are all R reg or newer.<br>
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Notwithstanding all this can one of you RWD gurus tell me if TKC 3417 is the correct pump for my car? The RKC 1624 as supplied by Rimmers is silver grey in colour with screw fuel pipe connections and the actuating arm points downwards.<br>
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The unit fitted to the car is light gold in colour, has push on fuel pipe connections, and the actuating arm points upward when correctly mounted.<br>
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All suggestions welcome.

<p>Martin<br>
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1968 Triumph 1300FWD<br>
1975 Triumph 1500TC Auto<br>
1989 Honda Civic 1300 Auto<br>
2006 Mondeo 2.0 Ghia X Auto<br>
2002 Renault Scenic<br>
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[Jon Tilson]

All Triumph fuel pumps have push on rubber pipe connections. The only difference even between 1850 ones and 1500 ones is the orientation of these pipes, which can usually be changed by loosening screws and twisting bits round...and then the length of the arm, which is pushed up and down by a cam.<br>
Some pumps have a longer arm and these need a 1/4 inch space block. They all point up at about 45 degrees.<br>
Ive never seen the long arm pump on an ohv car but have changed 1850 pumps to 1500's and vice versa when desperate with no ill effects. Some have serviceable diaphrams and some dont. Late type AC delco ones proliferate and these are crimped on and none serviceable.<br>
If the arm on yours points down and you've got screw on unions its wrong.<br>
These appear regularly on the bay...<br>
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Jonners

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[Toledo Man]

RKC1624 is indeed the correct part according to my 1500TC parts catalogue. (The Dolly 1300 & 1500 use the same fuel pump) There is also a part number 312343 listed which is described as a "Unitac" fuel pump. (Possibly an early part. Does anybody know?) TKC3147 doesn't appear in any of my parts catalogues at all. According to Rimmer's website this is for the later Dolly 1500 but my 1976 Dolly parts catalogue lists this part as RKC5049.

<p>Toledo Man<br>
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1974 Toledo 2-door (currently a spares car for Snowdrop)<br>
1973 1500fwd (Baby Blue slowly being recommissioned)<br>
1971 1500fwd (spares car for Baby Blue & future donor for the "Stretch 1500" project)<br>
1983 Acclaim HL (Becky, my daily driver)<br>
1977 Dolomite 1300 (Snowdrop my other road going Triumph)</p><i></i>

[Jod Clark]

Clearly something amiss here, the block found in any 1500 OHV car is essentially the same, and was so from when the OHV was a little 850cc in the Standard, therefore I see no reason why the pumps would differ. Never seen a pump with screwy connections in any OHV car of any displacement.<br>
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Jod

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[mbellinger]

...is a picture of TKC 3417. It is listed by Moss, Rimmers and several others as suitable for late 1500 Dollys, Spits and Midgets.<br>
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Note that it is silver grey (unlike the unit fitted to the car which is a light gold colour). Also the connections are at different angles to the unit on the car. Finally the unit fitted to the car does not have the screws holding the top half to the bottom of the pump body - it is a one piece pressed arrangement with a removeable "hat" under which is the filter gauze. Finally, finally, the actuating arm on the TKC3417 is clearly curved. That fitted to the car currently juts out 'straight' at 45 degrees and is not as long as TKC3417.<br>
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Looking at this picture, I would conclude that TKC3417 is not correct either. Anybody got any other suggestions?

<p>Martin<br>
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1968 Triumph 1300FWD<br>
1975 Triumph 1500TC Auto<br>
1989 Honda Civic 1300 Auto<br>
2006 Mondeo 2.0 Ghia X Auto<br>
2002 Renault Scenic<br>
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[2F45T4U]

I've got one off a 1300 dolly <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> £10 its yours it does work as it was used on my 1300 and 1850, when on my 1850 I changed the lever over, two clips pull out and the lever comes off easy <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->

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[mbellinger]

...well done mate. There is some money in your paypal account now which will cover post and get you a pint.<br>
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If it is no good (won't fit, etc) it will form a useful goal post when I play footie with my lad over the garages, and I will have the satisfaction of knowing that I contributed to your beer fund.<br>
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I would still like to resolve this mystery firstly in case I end up back to square one, and secondly for the benefit of others. Does our resident parts guru Malc have any pearls of wisdom here?

<p>Martin<br>
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1968 Triumph 1300FWD<br>
1975 Triumph 1500TC Auto<br>
1989 Honda Civic 1300 Auto<br>
2006 Mondeo 2.0 Ghia X Auto<br>
2002 Renault Scenic<br>
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[slant04]

The early triumphs, namely 1300's and heralds had screw pipe connectors. The tank end pushes on and the pipe comes around the front of the engine. Later ones, the carb pipe comes around the back. The earlier ones were phased out around the early 70's and generally have the removeable top for cleaning. The later ones, like you described are zinc pacifated and have no removable trap

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[2F45T4U]

Martin your a bit nuts <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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Anything else I got that may not fit you want to pay me for? Like assorted nuts and bolts that I've taken off my car and should of really gone back on, somewhere! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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Big thanks Martin <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->

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