Inner wheel arch repair panels...

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Sprint36
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Inner wheel arch repair panels...

#1 Post by Sprint36 » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:06 am

...would be handy right now! Say the bottom 4 to 6 inches of the outer half which forms the sill end closure and the return inside the outer arch and outer sill. Any plans to get any made? The rear equivalent would be handy too, but not so important.<br>
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Re: Inner wheel arch repair panels...

#2 Post by alun n » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:07 am

Need a pattern for evaluation...NOS or very clean...

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Re: Inner wheel arch repair panels...

#3 Post by Sprint36 » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:10 am

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Ends of 903885 and 903886. Could one be used to make a mirror image for the other?<br>
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Anyone got one hidden away? <br>
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Re: Inner wheel arch repair panels...

#4 Post by alun n » Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:33 am

Just the one will do, mirror is the way he works. So long as we don't extend too far into the complexity of the 3d curve he should be able to achieve something....

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Re: Inner wheel arch repair panels...

#5 Post by Sprint36 » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:11 am

Rimmers want £65 for a repro one. Don't know how good it is so if anyone has a geniune one that would probably make a better pattern. Failing that I could buy one and lend it to to the club repair panel department. I'm sure it wouldn't be too long before I got my vfm from it by cutting it into repair sections.<br>
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Re: Inner wheel arch repair panels...

#6 Post by slant04 » Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:50 pm

Where abouts in the country are you? A decent panel maker or resto shop will take a look and make one for you. If you are near yorkshire, I can reccomend a few and Ive got a solid car they can look at. Popping down to see someone about getting this sill section. Sure they can make some repair panels.

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Re: Inner wheel arch repair panels...

#7 Post by Sprint36 » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:37 am

Rather than pay someone local to make me a one off I'll make one up myself, but I was thinking as it's an area that often needs repairing it would be worth the club having panels available.<br>
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By the way, a quick measure last night suggests that at least 8" would be needed as the sill alone is 6" high.<br>
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Re: Inner wheel arch repair panels...

#8 Post by ecurie » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:59 am

They are pretty easy to make. I have no panelbaeting skills whatsoever, but managed to make the same repairs with piece of scrap metal. The weld itself is not the prettiest ever, but as it is inside the wheelarch and is covered with anti-stonechip paint you can't see it.<br>
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Good Luck.<br>
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Re: Inner wheel arch repair panels...

#9 Post by alun n » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:45 am

To be frank that is how I have done it previously, rather crudely, once its tacked on its just been ball paned into shape. The only real benefit of a full panel in this instance is where the arch has completely disappeared, the radial welt has gone too and there is no register left to work to.

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Re: Inner wheel arch repair panels...

#10 Post by Sprint36 » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:53 am

Are we all talking about the same thing here? Making a repair for inside the lower arch is pretty simple, but when you get right out to the edge inside the outer arch I can't see how making a decent repair is so simple when you have a double return along a curved edge. Perhaps I'm trying to make it look too close to the original, but then I like it to look reasonably close to how it should, even if only to avoid attracting too much attention from the MoT tester.<br>
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Re: Inner wheel arch repair panels...

#11 Post by slant04 » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:35 pm

You are right easy repair panel to make, properly and otherwise. Unfortunately I no longer have access to a wheeling maching and a set of swage rolls, or I'd make you one. i think it is very sensible to look at a repair panel for this are. Its a common enough area. I'm not sure if there is one made for the triumph 2000 / stag that could be adapted, or even a spit panel that is similar. Other than that, lets have a professional approach and get some made by someone who makes panels. They realy arn't that expensive for the job they do. I know I've had panels made and had made them myself, when I had all the tools. THere is no mileage in faffing around trying to get a small pressing run, ant they are usually awful as well.

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Re: Inner wheel arch repair panels...

#12 Post by slant04 » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:38 pm

I'm seeing a panel manufacturer this weekend and speaking to another. Will enquire if you want.<br>
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They don't use zintec btw. Its a pig to work with and the benefit is very small

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Zintec..........

#13 Post by dollybird72 » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:08 pm

I've no idea what zintec is like to work with so I take the word of the person who said it is a 'pig' but as for <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>and the benefit is very small<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> I disagree.<br>
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Zintec is a 'fit and forget' material - doesn't rust - even if it isn't painted for a while.<br>
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Given that the biggest bug-bear with Dollys is how prone they are to rusting and the welding and replacing of panels that go along with that, I'd say Zintec offers the best benefit of all!<br>
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Just my humble opinion.

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Pattern req for panel

#14 Post by Rob » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:34 pm

Hi,<br>
I do have an original stanpart panel for the NS inner wheel arch if the club are interested in remanufacturing these,assuming no destruction of this panel is required to use it as a pattern.I tend to agree,it would be a better option in zintec,as this is an area that gets alot of water and stonechips etc.<br>
Let me know if your interested,Rob

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Re: Pattern req for panel

#15 Post by alun n » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:41 pm

Interested, and your panel would remain intact. Where are you?

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