Bodywork restoration (lots of very good pics)

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Silvery
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Due South

#46 Post by Silvery » Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:54 pm

Down in Darkest Dorset I'm afraid, so might be a hike for you.<br>
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When I strip a car, I tend to really strip a car, so if all you're after is the shell to turn into repair sections then that's fine <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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I'd also be happy to pass the whole car on to someone who was going to restore it, but realistically it's in quite a state and missing various bits that have been used to keep others on the road while it's been stored for the last few years... And being a lowly 1500 it's not gonig to spark much interest as it - No use for a Sprint reshell, and nothing special rebuilt as is <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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You can mail me at triumph1500tc at yahoo dot co dot uk to discuss it further if you want <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>


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redrichie
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Fun Fun Fun

#47 Post by redrichie » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:27 am

Like I said, the drivers A post was in a far worse condition. Here it is with all the grot cut out. It's all sparkly inside because i've hammerited and applied about a litre of wax....<br>
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As you can see, the thick box section ends about 25mm above the hole left by the courtesy light switch. Because of the amount of "fresh air" in this are, i decided to pop a new box section on top, made from 1.2mm steel, to get some strength back into the are before i put some more "shaped" repairs on top. There was no way I could get any sort of clamp on there to hold it in place, nor was i willing to risk Bens fingers, so I drilled a hole and put a self tapper in, then tacked this box section on.<br>
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Once tacked in place, i removed the screw, spot welded the hole and welded along the join. This section now goes far further than the original box section, but nobody will be able to see it, and i felt it was neccersary to introduce some rigidity back into the area.<br>
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There are so many compound curves in this area, it would have been impossible for me to make just one sheet repair, so i've done it in three parts. one section on the roof pillar, and a Z section with tabs to meet on the lower section, which in turn gets welded to the new box section. Tomorrow, i'll be putting the final patch on, which will curve from the bottom of the roof pillar onto the original box section above the courtesy lamp switch...<br>
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Confused yet? Don't worry, pictures will follow, and the amount of boxes, Z, triangles and lips is making me all excited....thank God that Ben has a background in Airframe repairs (im just a simple avionics tech) <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->

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Jon Tilson
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Aaaargh....

#48 Post by Jon Tilson » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:11 am

The thought of weld spatter spoiling that nice dash casing....<br>
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Seriously though looks a really good job there....<br>
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Gary could use an apprentice....<br>
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arf arf...<br>
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redrichie
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Off side sill

#49 Post by redrichie » Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:56 pm

Been a busy little bunny this week. I finally finished the A Post on the offside (will get pics when I go back to the workshop), had a nice cup of tea, sucked on my teeth, and thought...to hell with it!!<br>
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Lets go for the off-side sill. So out came the fun tool again..<br>
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There had been a repair at the rear...consisting of expanding foam filler <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... ns/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> and covered with P38....when the grinder hit this it was like an explosion in a flour factory <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :evil --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /devil.gif ALT=":evil"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> . This repair was hiding some even worse news...the inner sill had become victim to the dreaded tinworm...<br>
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Fortunately, the front 9/10 of the inner sill was in perfect nick, so I guess that the Ziebart was working somewhere....<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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So, I removed the grot, and welded a nice thick repair patch on the rear section. Then I painted the whole lot in Hammerite Smooth (Silver now, because I had run out of black, and Halfords was shut...What kind of freak is going to wonder what colour paint is on the inside of the sill? Some TDC members will i bet....<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> )<br>
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Next, it was time to offer up the outer sill repair section i picked up from Alun back in february. Fitted quite well, I put self tappers in every so often, tightening them down when I was happy that the metal wouldn't crease. There was quite a bit of tension in the metal, and there is an extra lip on the bottom that I think I will fold around the original sill lip before welding along the seam.<br>
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I spot-welded the holes that I had drilled and screwed, taking them out one by one. The tops of the spot welds ground off quite easily. I spot welded the bottom using the same method, but like I said, I think I'll put her up on the four-post lift, bend the extra lip around and seam weld it. I'm saving the painting and the waxing until I've done the other side, then I'll do them both at once.<br>
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Even better, as I was welding the new sill on this morning, I got a text from Jod....The upper rear screen surround has now arrived in Birmingham, all I have to do is get myself up to his house now. Still a few weeks away from the MOT booking I think, but like British Rail, we're getting there... <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->

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dollyboy
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Re: Off side sill

#50 Post by dollyboy » Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:34 pm

top notch mate.<br>
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the more stuff i see like this the more im inspired to keep going.<br>
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MalcGE
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Excellent Job

#51 Post by MalcGE » Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:57 pm

A tip from my days of Sill replacement, watch the indent where the rear door leading edge 'opens into', sometimes when you fit a sill over the existing sill lip the clearnance can become a little compromised.<br>
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If top half of you sill is sound, might be worth putting a joddle in the vertical face ner the top, trimming skin sill and plug welding in the manner you have done <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->

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redrichie
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joddle

#52 Post by redrichie » Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:45 am

Well Malc, its certainly something I will bear in mind for the near side sill. Now this one is on and welded, the only thing I can really do if there is any interference is to grind the new sill down until it fits. I'll see when i offer the doors up.<br>
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Re: joddle

#53 Post by alun n » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:21 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>...fit quite well...<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->indeed<br>
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Are you sure you offered it up to the right side<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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My personal tip is to offer the cill up with the doors still in place as the top line of the cill depends on the achievable bottom line of doors...<br>
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Have today initiated a repair panel for the underside of roof; it will not go around the internal curve at the bottom and will not go around the side bends where Richie's had gone badly, but should from my experience deal with 8/10 problems.<br>
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Have also initiated a 'kit of parts' for repair to inner front wing/subframe mount area which will consist four shaped plates from back of front inner panel to brake flexi bracket and a length of tube!

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davepoth
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Re: joddle

#54 Post by davepoth » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:16 am

richie,<br>
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Having got the quote from the really well skilled restoration man for my car I was thinking about using some of the methods you outlined above. Can I ask where did you get the putty from?

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redrichie
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where from???

#55 Post by redrichie » Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:35 pm

erm...Its something we use on aircraft, but when it goes "out of date", as certain stuff does, I kind of rescue it from the bin.<br>
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<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.itw-devcon.co.uk/products.aspx?cat=2"> Try this stuff </a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->

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Re: where from???

#56 Post by davepoth » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:26 am

I've got an image of engineers pushing filler into bullet holes in the wings of tornadoes with their old credit cards. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->

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redrichie
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Flintstone Edition Dolomite

#57 Post by redrichie » Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:39 pm

Got the new chassis rail and drivers floorpan off Dave a couple of weeks back, but I've been so busy at work not had much time recently. Anyway, today the fun tools came out again, and I present to you the Triumph Dolomite - Flintstones Edition:<br>
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My spring cleaning has now dragged on into the summer, but seeing as I am moving in November, and quite possibly losing the access to such good (and free) facilities, I'm really going to get my finger out now. Booked the first two weeks in August off work, and my project goal has now been set for the TDCIR...

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redrichie
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update

#58 Post by redrichie » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:32 pm

As I admitted in the "Tell me your secrets" thread, I have finally finished the drivers footwell and the OS chassis rail.<br>
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Welded, sealed and painted with Hammerite Black. Going to do another coat on monday, then paint the interior back to carmine. The complete underside is going to be waxoyled before the MOT as well.<br>
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Just the rear screen surround (ugh) to do, fit the black interior, final touch up on paintwork, good wash/polish/hoover, service and MOT....<br>
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And, I still didn't get the silver windscreen rubber finisher, and I can't find the post anymore with the details in. Could some kind soul who doesn't have a brain like a sieve remind me??? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->

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tinweevil
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Re: update

#59 Post by tinweevil » Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:18 pm

Check the tin, I think hammerite is 2nd coat within 24 hrs or after 28 days.<br>
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Could be wrong, havn't been near a tin for years.<br>
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<p>1978 <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.triumphowners.com/704">Dolomite Sprint</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> Blue, a bit tetley. - Current daily drive.<br>
1972 <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.triumphowners.com/754">Spitfire IV</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> No name, in bits.<br>
1968 <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.triumphowners.com/705">GT6 II</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> Little blue, nice!<br>
1973 <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.triumphowners.com/755">Dolomite Sprint</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> VA41, seriously tetley.<br>
1980 <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.triumphowners.com/864">Dolomite 1500HL</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> Orange, really quite tidy.</p><i></i>

redrichie
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Black Interior

#60 Post by redrichie » Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:41 pm

Got round to fitting the black interior this week. I know it all needs a good scrub, but I am really happy with the results so far. I think it looks good with the dark door cappings and dashboard.<br>
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Still having issues with the seatbelts. I took them apart (the cover that says "do not open") and had a fiddle. I got the passenger one working ok, apart from about 1 time in 10 it doesn't lock off when pulled out fast....not safe at all, as you can guarantee that the one time you need it to lock, will be the time it doesn't...the drivers is still exactly the same. I'm just going to keep playing when I get bored with the other stuff....<br>
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List of things to do:<br>
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Paint the rear screen surround and refit chrome trim.<br>
Paint the sills in stoneguard matt black.<br>
Fit the gear lever gaiter and surround (when I find it).<br>
Underseal the complete underneath (when I buy some).<br>
Charge the battery....<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
Sort those infernal seatbelts.<br>
Scrub, Vacuum, Wash, T-Cut, Wax.<br>
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Book an MOT. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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Seems as I get to the end of my "Spring" Cleaning, everything is coming together in a big rush....

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