fitting 1500 o/d into 1300 dolly

[thebouncingbunny]

am in thew proccess of removing the engine and o/d gearbox from a rotten 1500 hl and am planning to fit the box into my 1300 using my 1300 engine that i know is good.does anyone know any pitfalls to doing this?are there any parts apart from the obvious that i need remove from the scrapper?will my tunnell need changing?thanks in advance.bunny(pageant blue 1300 with ladders)

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[Jon Tilson]

Box must have same number of input shaft splines or you'll need a new clutch plate. Wiring loom for gearbox must come with it. Stick. Cross member and prop shaft.<br>
Why not get the tunnel as well if its there. Also parcel tray, dash and heater if its an HL while you are at it. May as wel have the adjustable column as well and the bigger seats. The there is the sill kick plates to finish it off...oh and the 4 headlights and boot lid and vinyl rear panels...there it is one 1300HL Dolly...<br>
sorry got a bit carried away there...<br>
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Jonners

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[thebouncingbunny]

are the splines different on the two boxes?do i need to change the tunnell?im hoping that i wont as it seems a hassle having removed it from the donor for ease of dismantling.i thing ive already got the same parcel shelf tho.cheers .bunny

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[Stan Part]

I did the same conversion on my '76 1300 (God rest his sole). Very easy to do just the wires to change, clutch and thats it.<br>
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You can use your tunnel and propshaft.<br>
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Good luck.

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[Jon Tilson]

but an o/d box is about 6 inches longer so theres no way the prop sliding joint will take that much...and you need the cross member and mounting too....<br>
Tunnel is the same I think but why not have it anyway and play safe. The HL one will have the mounting for the nice placcy tray...<br>
The clutch spline count did change but may be on earlier Dollies only. Worth checking though.<br>
Jonners

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[IRL1177NI]

Have done this swap a couple of times (with the same g/box!)<br>
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Most likely you'll have single rail boxes(reverse beside 3rd),these should have 1in 23 spline i/p shafts.<br>
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The rear g/box mounting on the back of the subframe has to be removed and the extra crossmember from the o/d car needs to be fitted (i think the holes are already drilled?).<br>
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The prop joint will slide enough (I never even had an o/d prop).<br>
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The feed for the reverse light switch feeds the solenoid through the inhibitor switch,an in-line fuse is a good idea .<br>
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Good Luck<br>
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Tom<br>


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[thebouncingbunny]

right well that all seems fairly straight forward(ish)just trying to iron out any wrinkles before i take my beloved 1300 apart as its my daily driver that i use for my work as a window cleaner.ill let you all know how i get on.may be a few weeks tho.....ive kinda got used to not having reverse and first tho,its been broken for 10 months!the poor old clutch is slipping badly now tho hence the panic!cheers all.bunny

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[Dave]

Those journeys must have taken some planning!

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[thebouncingbunny]

its fine and dandy!utter luxury-reverse gear oh joy!overdrive even better than i was hoping.looking at it after there probably was enough movement in the sliding splines on the prop but i changed that anyway.the box and o/d is only about an inch longer than the standard.the only nightmare i had was that i baught a standard 1300 clutch but my 1300 is a 1980 regd one and the 79-80 cars had 1500 cluches fitted-doh!thanks a lot to all those that helped.(including my "dont like getting my hands dirty" dad who i roped in to tweak the engine crane!all in all ive worked it out that i had no revers or first for 14 months,is this a record?no more pushing into parking spaces.........bliss......

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[Jod Clark]

My first Dolly never had reverse in all the time I owned it. Delightful sandglow 'n' rust machine. Once you get used to not being able to go backwards its not too bad living without it.<br>
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No Dolomites to be seen in Turkey, but loads of Fiat 131s and Renault 12s.<br>
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Jod

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[thebouncingbunny]

piece of cake!i found it fairly easy.as above.has made a world of difference to cruising revs and i find it very satisfiying just flicking the little switch.......<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
i may have an o/d gear lever+knob if you get stuck.not sure if the switch is there tho<br>
also have new clutch friction+pressure plate bought in error as my 1300 is a late one fitted with the 1500 clutch.DOH!<br>
gis a shout.am located in weymouth dorset<br>
bunny

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[Silvery]

Yay, another Dorset Dolly!<br>
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Sorry to hijack the thread, but it's about time someone local to me turned up on here (Dorchester) <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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Need any bare rusty engine blocks..? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->

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[thebouncingbunny]

yeah,youve probably seen me around.i've got a pageant 1300, sprint alloys.all topped off with about half a ton of ladders!(i'm a window cleaner)had my dolly about 6 years now and it works hard for its living!if you see me about come and say hello,bunny

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[Silvery]

Yet... Buty then, my TC doesn't go more than 3 or 4 miles afield in case that engine finally lets go in a big way <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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If you ever see a white 1500TC with a red bonnet clatter past you - For god's sake don't flag me down in case it doesn't start again!!! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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There any more bits coming off that hl the engine came out of..? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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And I'll bet you've got a 1300 lump spare now I've been all the way to Cornwall and back for one...

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[thebouncingbunny]

<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> cornwall!oh dear.....<br>
have broken about 3 or 4(all 1500's1850's) cars up in the last 10 years or so .have got all manner of bits knocking around and am terminally skint!unless its something i think i deffo need it'll be for sale.have got a couple of gboxes+3 1500 engines dash's trim the lot+about 20 sprint alloys!.i never throw anything away!<br>
i'll look out for you,i do some window cleaning in dorch but mostly around wey.c u about,bunny

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