Source for Strange Terminal on Battery Cable

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harryrc
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Source for Strange Terminal on Battery Cable

#1 Post by harryrc » Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:03 pm

I need to replace my positive battery cable. However there is a terminla crimped to the cable, about 8 inches from where it attaches to the battery. This terminal has wires which appear to feed the fuse box and alternator.<br>
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Does anyone know where I can get a new one, or anyone have an old one that can be cut off an old cable?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Harry

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1300dolly
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Re: Source for Strange Terminal on Battery Cable

#2 Post by 1300dolly » Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:13 pm

Well that looks nice and reliable nowhere for the corrosion to creep in. If you are handy with wire and terminals you can just make up new leads using a mutiblock connector.(solder type not screw in) OR<br>
take the pic to your local independent auto electrian and he/she should be able to supply you with the correctly rated bits.<br>
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Re: Source for Strange Terminal on Battery Cable

#3 Post by dollyboy » Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:12 pm

I'm intrigued... <br>
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Connectors like that, in my mind are on par with 'scotch locks' and good for one place only, my friend... In deee bin mate. In fact, I'd be happier chopping the terminals off the end, twisting them round the battery cable and plastering it all up with insulating tape!! <br>
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I'd use slightly bigger cross section cable (the copper, not the insulation!), finer stranded stuff (more flexible) and maybe stick in an insulated stud terminal. Re-crimp the cables with ring terminals to suit the stud (id use about M8 ) , dont forget the heat shrink, and make the take off to the fuse box via the stud.<br>
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While you're at it, throw the old fuse box away, and get a nice shiny new one with blade fuses, and BEHOLD... the opportunity to isolate some circuits nicely and neatly!!! HOOO RAAA for nice wiring!!!<br>
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but again, thats just me, and im nuts...<br>
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(sillouette of black cloak woooshing in the air as the mysterious figure disappears into the night, carrying a small tool box full of fuses, cable crimps, a decent crimping tool and mulitmeter, and laughter fades into the distance...)<br>
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Re: Source for Strange Terminal on Battery Cable

#4 Post by Carsreunited » Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:44 pm

I'm amazed at the amount of internet time they allow you on the ward Dollyboy. Is it lockdown yet??!!<br>
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Re: Source for Strange Terminal on Battery Cable

#5 Post by 1300dolly » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:07 pm

IS IS A BIRD/ ISIT A PLANE/ NO ITS DOLLYBOY.....<br>
I completly agree with the scoth lock thing.. a major cause dodgy wiring and the odd fire.<br>
Where abouts on this fine planet do you reside as if you near the southern end i will happy to do your wiring in exchange for a cup of tea (2 sugars please)<br>
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Justyn<br>
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1979 sandglow 1300 dolomite<br>
1979 pagent blue 1300 dolomite<br>
1978 PURPLE 1300 dolomite<br>
1999 vectra<br>
2000 125cc trials bike<br>
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Re: Source for Strange Terminal on Battery Cable

#6 Post by Carsreunited » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:26 pm

I think Harry is the Western end of the planet. I think he's in the states!

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Re: Source for Strange Terminal on Battery Cable

#7 Post by 1300dolly » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:48 am

dats a long walk or i could use my new postcard as a type of flying carpet .<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>


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Re: Source for Strange Terminal on Battery Cable

#8 Post by harryrc » Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:39 am

You're right...I am in Denver, Colorado USA.<br>
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This "Connector" is original equipment (it appears) and is stamped with LUCAS, Made in England. If the rest of you don't have this connector, how do those 4 thick brown wires get their positive feed from the battery?<br>
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Thanks for the ideas.<br>
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Harry

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Re: Source for Strange Terminal on Battery Cable

#9 Post by alun n » Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:07 am

Wasn't there a disparaging acronym for 'LUCAS'?

<p>1973 Dolomite Sprint<br>
1974 Dolomite Sprint<br>
1977 Dolomite Sprint (Pageant)<br>
1977 Dolomite Sprint (White)<br>
1979 Dolomite Sprint<br>
1979 Dolomite 1850HL<br>
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Re: Source for Strange Terminal on Battery Cable

#10 Post by dollyboy » Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:25 am

Harry - that terminal is O. E. however tapping into a wire like that is not good practice. I'd guess battery cables were made up like that because it's quicker and cheaper to do it like that. <br>
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To simplify my suggestion, what I was getting at was basically make up the battery cable in 2 parts, with a stud that is obviously insulated from the shell, conveniently located in the engine bay, away from risk of getting plastered in dirt/grime. terminate the ends of the battery cable, and also those brown wires to fit the stud, and VOILA, nicely engineered solution. <br>
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(im not really nuts, 2 years at college studying electrical/electronic engineering and 10 years designing electrical distribution systems for boats, special vehicles, and obscure standby power systems, and I just like things done 'properly'!)<br>
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Re: Source for Strange Terminal on Battery Cable

#11 Post by 2F45T4U » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:19 am

Properly? Does that include your suggestion of welding up my rear suspension? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->

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Re: Source for Strange Terminal on Battery Cable

#12 Post by dollyboy » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:42 pm

yes, definitely adam... <br>
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of course if you're going to make it a proper hard-tail, you should also remove the rear shox and replace them with some RSJ's, or the cheaper version would be to modify the posts from some old axle stands and weld those in. you know it makes sense! go on, get it done!<br>
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i can be serious from time to time, although it doesnt happen very often... coming from an electrical background, wiring things just bug me. <br>
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I just like having a chuckle with you, because you're special. YOU ARE THE FUTURE, SON! in 20 years, people will come to you for advice on dolomite repairs, then you can get your revenge! <br>
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And there I was...

#13 Post by Jon Tilson » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:52 pm

thinking Adam bating was a sport only Alun and I indulged in...<br>
Lucas...Prince of Darkness...<br>
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Ive NEVER had a problem with that battery cable arrangement...even on cars that have stood in grass for years. It must be the States that does it...all that fossil fuel residue, acid rain and the dreaded denver brown cloud...<br>
Now the fuse box is a different story and is well up there with my favourite crap dolomite features...<br>
I feel a new thread coming on....<br>
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Re: And there I was...

#14 Post by FVC dolly » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:59 pm

As i still work for Lucas (tho now called TRW) i have to agree with with all ure comments<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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Re: And there I was...

#15 Post by 1300dolly » Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:45 am

Iwas lucky enough to have worked for Lucas in 1990/1 but i'll keep that quietas part ot my shameful past,.<br>
Justyn.

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