Project Blue VA2741DLA
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Re: Project Blue VA2741DLA
French Blue is such an under rated colour and really suits the car
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Re: Project Blue VA2741DLA
A rolling resto? Aside from reinstating the auto and getting an MoT it looks pretty much ready to go out of the box.
good on you for putting the autobox back in. There's not many left.
good on you for putting the autobox back in. There's not many left.
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Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
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West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
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Re: Project Blue VA2741DLA
Nice one Mike, are you going to put the correct style of number plate on? 

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Re: Project Blue VA2741DLA
Great stuff..glad your putting the auto back in..as TM says, not many left. 

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Any progress with this?
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Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
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Re: Project Blue VA2741DLA
When will you get the shell back?
Fitting an auto isn't much different to a manaul. The main differences are:
The flexplate is a bit different to the flywheel. The spacer goes onto the crankshaft first. Get it lined up with 4 of the eight bolts. There's a couple of plates that go either side of the flex plate. The smaller one goes between the spacer and flex plate. I used copper grease so that in the event that the flexplate broke again I could separate all the bits. The flexplate will only go on one way so check it against the starter motor to make sure. (yes I made that mistake!) I couldn't find any tightening torques for the flex plate bolts so I had to go by the figure for the flywheel bolts which was 35-55 lb/ft. I went for the middle and torqued them to 45 lb/ft. I tightened them evenly and I rechecked them to make sure I hadn't missed any of them.
There's no alignment to worry about when you fit the autobox. It goes straight on. Just make sure the torque converter is pushed all the way into the input shaft. I recommend using a 3/8" rachet on the torque convertor bolts as space is a bit tight down there.
There's the wiring for the inhibitor switch. The inhibitor wires are red and white and the reversing light wires are green. The terminals for the reversing light wires in the inhibitor wires are marked "R". There's a small 8mm bolt that keeps the inhibitor switch in place.
The selector rod can be a pain to fit and line up. There should be a couple of clips at either end of the rod which keeps the rod from coming off. What I did was to fit the rod to the selector lever, remove the plate on the selector at the gearbox end, fit the rod to it and then I adjusted the rod until I could get the plate back on and bolted up.
The crossmember is similar to the manual OD.
The kickdown cable goes in the space on the bracket on the outside of the car. Make sure you have the bracket for this as without it you can't fit the kickdown cable.
If need be I can take some photos so you can see how it all goes together. I hope this helps.
Fitting an auto isn't much different to a manaul. The main differences are:
The flexplate is a bit different to the flywheel. The spacer goes onto the crankshaft first. Get it lined up with 4 of the eight bolts. There's a couple of plates that go either side of the flex plate. The smaller one goes between the spacer and flex plate. I used copper grease so that in the event that the flexplate broke again I could separate all the bits. The flexplate will only go on one way so check it against the starter motor to make sure. (yes I made that mistake!) I couldn't find any tightening torques for the flex plate bolts so I had to go by the figure for the flywheel bolts which was 35-55 lb/ft. I went for the middle and torqued them to 45 lb/ft. I tightened them evenly and I rechecked them to make sure I hadn't missed any of them.
There's no alignment to worry about when you fit the autobox. It goes straight on. Just make sure the torque converter is pushed all the way into the input shaft. I recommend using a 3/8" rachet on the torque convertor bolts as space is a bit tight down there.
There's the wiring for the inhibitor switch. The inhibitor wires are red and white and the reversing light wires are green. The terminals for the reversing light wires in the inhibitor wires are marked "R". There's a small 8mm bolt that keeps the inhibitor switch in place.
The selector rod can be a pain to fit and line up. There should be a couple of clips at either end of the rod which keeps the rod from coming off. What I did was to fit the rod to the selector lever, remove the plate on the selector at the gearbox end, fit the rod to it and then I adjusted the rod until I could get the plate back on and bolted up.
The crossmember is similar to the manual OD.
The kickdown cable goes in the space on the bracket on the outside of the car. Make sure you have the bracket for this as without it you can't fit the kickdown cable.
If need be I can take some photos so you can see how it all goes together. I hope this helps.
Toledo Man
West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
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Re: Project Blue VA2741DLA
Mike, I thought I'd let you know of the potential pitfalls associated with fitting autos from my recent hard won experience. The 1850 and Sprint autos are basically the same so my experiences should apply to your's.
Those photos you posted certainly covered a multitude of sins! Could your's be the oldest surviving Sprint auto?
Those photos you posted certainly covered a multitude of sins! Could your's be the oldest surviving Sprint auto?
Toledo Man
West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
Hmmmmmmm, corrosion.................
Well done Mike, for taking this car on.
The car was incredibly deceitful and needs some fairly major work to fix, as follows -
4 x replacement doors
Bonnet frame rotted out & is scrap
nearside rear wing (previous lousy fit of arch repair killed it).
repairs to offside side rear wing
Both sills (nearside contained expanding foam and glued in cover concealed with underseal!)
Bulkhead held together each corner where it joins the flitch by upholstery foam, bathroom silcone & underseal.
Bulkhead toast below servo.
Lower front panel made out of three badly welded sections and filler
Drivers side floor needs repair
Headlamp rear panel gone each end (could be repaired with club panels if I can find any)
Offside front subframe mount gone (going to try out the little used club repair panel).
Further to the above, looking at this picture....
a rotten inner wing reinforcer to me........
The car was incredibly deceitful and needs some fairly major work to fix, as follows -
4 x replacement doors
Bonnet frame rotted out & is scrap
nearside rear wing (previous lousy fit of arch repair killed it).
repairs to offside side rear wing
Both sills (nearside contained expanding foam and glued in cover concealed with underseal!)
Bulkhead held together each corner where it joins the flitch by upholstery foam, bathroom silcone & underseal.
Bulkhead toast below servo.
Lower front panel made out of three badly welded sections and filler
Drivers side floor needs repair
Headlamp rear panel gone each end (could be repaired with club panels if I can find any)
Offside front subframe mount gone (going to try out the little used club repair panel).
Further to the above, looking at this picture....
I think the front wings will need to be removed too, the patch on the inner wing above the turret suggestsMikeyB wrote:
a rotten inner wing reinforcer to me........
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Re: Project Blue VA2741DLA
Mike I suggest that you get in touch with Eric Noble in the North West as he's made up a lot of moulds and things to create his own repair sections for things like headlamp rear panel ends and also he's done some very good work on sills and very much recreated the look you're after. Eric's own Dolomite has done nearly 300k miles and although a bit tatty the metalwork is very good.
Mark
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1980 Dolomite Sprint project using brand new shell
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1980 Dolomite Sprint project using brand new shell
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Re: Project Blue VA2741DLA
Crikey!..... 'tis just a scratch.
I'm sure someone can repair that Mike but that's gonna cost a lot of wonga unless you diy. If you are planning to sell it on afterwards you won't get your money back.

I'm sure someone can repair that Mike but that's gonna cost a lot of wonga unless you diy. If you are planning to sell it on afterwards you won't get your money back.
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Re: Project Blue VA2741DLA
Find a different shell maybe 

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Re: Project Blue VA2741DLA
According to the "How Many Left" website there's only 50 Sprint autos left. I know this isn't 100% accurate but it gives you some idea. VA2471DLA is a 1974 car and on the same site there's a breakdown of the cars by year. There's only one 1973 car (on SORN) so your's is the 2nd oldest surviving Sprint auto being registered on January 1st 1974. If you restored VA2471DLA it would the oldest surviving roadworthy Sprint auto. This should be a long-term project which will spread the cost so you won't feel it and you don't have to rush to source any parts you need. If you decided to keep it then you'd have the choice of a manual or auto depending on the mood. Can't you get any welding done at "mates rates" or get a discount if there's quite a bit of work needed.
Toledo Man
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Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
Re: Project Blue VA2741DLA
I'm sure there was an inner wing on eBay recently?
Must be worth keeping a lookout for a dead car with a better front end and get busy with the spot weld drill..
Must be worth keeping a lookout for a dead car with a better front end and get busy with the spot weld drill..
1978 Triumph Dolomite Sprint (project thread)
1966 Volkswagen 1300 (project thread)
1962 Austin Mini (project)
1962 MGA 1600 Mark II
1965 Mobylette SP50 (project)
2001 Rover 75 2.5-litre V6
1966 Volkswagen 1300 (project thread)
1962 Austin Mini (project)
1962 MGA 1600 Mark II
1965 Mobylette SP50 (project)
2001 Rover 75 2.5-litre V6
Re: Project Blue VA2741DLA
1978 Triumph Dolomite Sprint (project thread)
1966 Volkswagen 1300 (project thread)
1962 Austin Mini (project)
1962 MGA 1600 Mark II
1965 Mobylette SP50 (project)
2001 Rover 75 2.5-litre V6
1966 Volkswagen 1300 (project thread)
1962 Austin Mini (project)
1962 MGA 1600 Mark II
1965 Mobylette SP50 (project)
2001 Rover 75 2.5-litre V6
Re: Project Blue VA2741DLA
Rimmers still have both sides, I picked up a N/S one just in case in one of their sales, O/S one is already welded in.Howard81 wrote:I'm sure there was an inner wing on eBay recently?
Must be worth keeping a lookout for a dead car with a better front end and get busy with the spot weld drill..
1977 1850 HL manual O/D