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Re: Battery in the boot?

#16 Post by tony g »

Yes Ian I know what you mean. I think the bottle level will be higher than the stat housing. I'll try a mock up next week when I get chance to bolt a spare engine set together to see what's what.

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Well.......

#17 Post by sprint95m »

Tony if you look at the photo I posted on page one.....
the expansion bottle in that position only just clears the height of the thermostat cover (1850 engine).
This means that the entire contents of the bottle are above the engine.

A Sprint engine sits a little lower but only by some millimetres.

It is worth spending some time checking things out at this stage. Take the bonnet off, viewing from the front makes it
much easier to assess.





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#18 Post by tony g »

Yes Ian I will check at this stage. Currently the engine bay is empty of everything (engine bay repaint looking great :)) and the bonnet is not fitted. Now Ive got the subframe back I can do the mock up once I get chance. If I waste a few quid on bottles til I get it right so be it but I will get it right ie water level above the stat housing with room left in the bottle for air. :D

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#19 Post by tony g »

sprint95m wrote:Tony if you look at the photo I posted on page one.....
the expansion bottle in that position only just clears the height of the thermostat cover (1850 engine).
This means that the entire contents of the bottle are above the engine.

Ian.
The photo is not showing on my computer now Ian, just a red X

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Hi Tony.......

#20 Post by sprint95m »

I don't know why that should be, it is hosted on the DollyWiki site.

Anyhow I have attached a couple of photos....

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This is the Volvo 850 bottle on my car. It is sited as high as possible which means using the NS turret
and getting as close to the heater blower as it can go. The bonnet only just closes on it.
The coolant in the expansion bottle is all above the engine (you can check this will be so when you fill up,
leave the cap off the thermostat housing.....). The capacity increases the total in the cooling system from 5.4 litres to
about 6 litres (the Saab radiator is at 1.8 litres, adding another 0.6 litres. I think your Ford radiator will be the same
capacity as a Sprint but with increased width?)
I wrote an article for Dolly Mixture a while ago on this subject where I compared the VW/Audi/Skoda/Seat type and a Rover 25
to the Volvo one and not only found that the Volvo had the biggest capacity but neither of the other two could be positioned high enough
to actually clear the thermostat housing level.




I did a quick search on ebay, you can buy a new Volvo bottle and cap for a little over £30 inc. postage
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from= ... e&_sacat=0



hope this is useful,


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#21 Post by georgiasprint »

I've got the Volvo bottle and trying to decide whether to hang it like yours or to the front of the turret. Your way is much higher but I have a Sprint. Any thought?
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#22 Post by tony g »

ImageIMG_20150728_111422 by tg1mm, on Flickr

My new set up with a (bmw) mini bottle. Not the clearest of pics sorry. Ive removed the fuses and they now live inside the car. Bottle drops in this gap nicely. Wedged with a bit of cardboard :)

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#23 Post by tony g »

Hers my battery in boot. Tray is from a bmw E36 which bolts to the bmw so nice to remove and I made the extra support bracket as it hangs over the shelf a bit. I put a notch in the spare wheel cover board to clear. Ideally the soft boot trim would need cutting around the battery but I just stand mine vertical so you dont see the battery.

ImageIMG_20150414_164139 by tg1mm, on Flickr

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#24 Post by cliftyhanger »

That is neat. Wish I had gone that route, guess I still can but MoT on Saturday and still plenty to do!
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#25 Post by sprint95m »

georgiasprint wrote:I've got the Volvo bottle and trying to decide whether to hang it like yours or to the front of the turret. Your way is much higher but I have a Sprint. Any thought?
There is actually more room on a Sprint, Joe.

The location needs to be as high as possible. My choice takes advantage of the space within the bonnet's skeleton.




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#26 Post by georgiasprint »

I just picked up the radiator. Whew I was expecting 14X20 for the whole radiator NOT just the core. I hope this thing fits!
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#27 Post by Carledo »

The whole thing on mine is 24" x 14.5", thats across the header tanks. You need to remove most of the extra flange on both sides that sticks out from the header tanks, it doesn't serve any purpose anyway on our cars. Your new one may not be the same, but I found out the hard way that the little screw holes meant to hold the fan assembly in place, actually go right into the rad and needed screws putting in to make watertight, at least they did on my old second hand '98 one, I've not taken the new one out of its shrink wrap yet!
That's definitely the right one though so I guarantee it WILL fit!

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#28 Post by georgiasprint »

Yes that's the exact measurement. This is a replacement for a 2001 9-3 SAAB. So talk to me. The engine is in the car and is going to stay. I figure off goes the bonnet and fan. Did you fabricate mounts or what? Also, where are the attachments for the fan? I'm very wary of holes that need to be plugged!
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Okay.....

#29 Post by sprint95m »

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20092
It was me who did this first.
For some reason unknown to me some of the photos have been removed but the important ones showing the bottom hose and homemade
cooling fan brackets are still there.


There is more shown here in Tony's thread...
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=25122


There is no need to remove the bonnet or engine to get this radiator to fit.
Any questions, please ask.



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#30 Post by Carledo »

georgiasprint wrote:Yes that's the exact measurement. This is a replacement for a 2001 9-3 SAAB. So talk to me. The engine is in the car and is going to stay. I figure off goes the bonnet and fan. Did you fabricate mounts or what? Also, where are the attachments for the fan? I'm very wary of holes that need to be plugged!
I fabbed 2 "Z" brackets from 2"x 2mm steel bar with holes for rubber bushes on the rad end and secured them under the chassis, ahead of the subframe with 2 x 6mm tapping bolts (Cavalier wing fitting bolts actually) each. This has done the job fine for over 3 years now, I keep meaning to fab something up to mount the top to the front inner panel but the hoses hold it in place fine and if it aint broke.......
In your pic you can see the fan fitting holes, the left one is about 2" below the top hose neck and the right one in the corresponding position on the other side.
One of the problems with this rad is that the factory electric fan motor is too big to go in (since my first was a S/H rad, I got the fan too) There is also no provision for a fan switch in the rad so being the lazy sod I am, I just kept the engine driven viscous fan, if it aint broke.......
I've recently seen fittings that go in a rad hose and accept a fan sender switch, with one of these and an aftermarket slimline electric fan, the job will be easy, but it works fine as is, will cost a good few quid to implement and only saves a couple of BHP - so its a good way down the to-do list!

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