How many 1973 Sprints left ?

[simonhorton]

How many of these left ?

Thank you

[Howard81]

[Sundowner]

Could you explain what SORNed means please?
I have no idea and that comes from living in the antipodes I expect.
Cheers,
Rob

[davy67]

Rob, SORN stands for Statutory Off Road Notification. Basically its a form that needs to be filled in to update the DVLA that although you are the current owner/registered keeper of your vehicle it is not currently on the road, being used,and has no road tax. Most owners would most likely SORN their car if they take it off the road over the winter months to avoid exposure to the salt and grit used on the winter roads which cause corrosion. Also winter time is when we like to carry out minor/major work on the car in preparation for the following spring when we can take our cars to shows and events.
My car has been off the road since before SORN was introduced.
Hope this helps.

David

[gmsclassics]

Interesting how countries differ in their approach to this. Rob, don't you have anything similar in Oz?

Quite a number of years ago NZ introduced a continuous licencing system in an attempt to catch that element of society that don't pay the annual registration charges, That means you are liable to pay these charges continuously whilst a vehicle is registered to you. If you do want to take the vehicle off the road you can, but only by filling in a form notifying, in advance, the relevant Govt department that the vehicle isn't going to be used on the road for a period between 3 and 12 months. It is termed putting the vehicle "on hold" and this has to be done annually. If you don't put it on hold, nor pay the annual registration, the vehicle is automatically de-registered after just two years. To put it back on the road requires a process of re-certification which is both extensive and expensive.

Forget to put a vehicle on hold, or forget to renew this and you become liable for full annual registration costs even if you truly haven't used the vehicle. Many people have been caught in this way and plenty of cars have been 'accidentally' de-registered. If that happens all details are wiped off the Govt database and all of the vehicle history is destroyed. You also lose access to the original registration plate.

Geoff

[GrahamFountain]

Interesting that 1973 is (was last year) the only year of first reg where there's more on the road than SORNed 22:16. Are the 1986 Sprint that's taxed something odd and the one 1972 Sprint on SORN a prototype?

[Carledo]

Interesting that 1973 is (was last year) the only year of first reg where there's more on the road than SORNed 22:16. Are the 1986 Sprint that's taxed something odd and the one 1972 Sprint on SORN a prototype?

In the 4th quarter of 2014, only '73 registered Sprints were VED exempt and therefore taxed all year round, whether used or not! As time progresses and more Sprints become tax-free, the difference between summer and winter licenced figures is likely to decrease, simply because of this.

Steve

[Mahesh]

I have to wait till Aug 2020 for mine to be vehicle tax free.

[GrahamFountain]

In the 4th quarter of 2014, only '73 registered Sprints were VED exempt and therefore taxed all year round, whether used or not!

As I said, interesting.

Graham

[Sundowner]

Interesting how countries differ in their approach to this. Rob, don't you have anything similar in Oz?
Geoff

Here in Oz we have 6 different States and 2 Territories that each have their own vehicle registration schemes.
I have never heard of anything like this, in any off these states, but that's not to say it doesn't exist somewhere in Oz. However, my State, New South Wales, certainly doesn't have a system like SORN.
A motor vehicle is either registered fully for private or business use, or its off the road completely. The only exception to this is a concessional registration, which is available to
1) the Hot Rodding fraternity where stringent engineering standards are required to be met........or
2) in my case, for "Historic" registration which allows an un-modified vehicle over 30 years of age to be driven normally but with some restrictions.

If a car is taken off the road here for a number of years, and is then re-registered, it will be issued with a completely new registration number, but its registration history is kept filed by the authorities in order to prevent thefts, re-birthing etc.

Thanks for answering Gents, I've learned something and its much appreciated.

Cheers,
Rob

[Sundowner]

The reason I asked was because I'm interested in the numbers of these cars remaining on our roads, I saw the chart and then got both confused and even more interested.
I've added the Licensed and SORNed cars together, roughly and I get a figure of approximately 560. Its a bit hard to read the chart accurately.
Here in Oz, Leyland Australia imported Dolomites between August '75 and July '76. Only 620 of them were SPRINTS and all of those were Mimosa Yellow. I'm unsure of the total number of Dolomites that came into the country but most people who have any knowledge of them say that there are less than 100 still on the road here and around 150-200 total. (Including rusting hulks & parts cars)
I'm very fortunate that I own a rust free, straight, good example on NSW "Historic" registration, hence the "H" on the plate.
Cheers,
Rob

[GrahamFountain]

I've added the Licensed and SORNed cars together, roughly and I get a figure of approximately 560. Its a bit hard to read the chart accurately.

If you go to the DVLA sites https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/t ... anufacture and https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/t ... #!firstreg they purport give the actual numbers of cars in Q4 2014, by year of manufacture and year of registration. However, these data aren't complete enough to give a definitive answer to the initial question.

I compiled the folowing spredsheet from their data so it's organized to be more easily compared:



For example, up to the end of 1973, only 15 of the extant cars are documented as having been manufactured, but yet 39 of them had been first registered. So, obviously at least 24 of the 74 cars for which there is no manufacturing date had been made already. And, since there are 14 where DVLA admit not knowing when they were first registered (?), there might have been 53 manufactured and registered by the end of 1973.

So the best answer from these data is that at least 38 and no more than 52 of the 594 cars known to DVAL in Q4 2014 were made in 1973.

But I think it says something about the quality of DVLA's knowledge of how many cars are out there that the totals for Q1 and Q2 2015 go down to 549 and then back up to 597. So first 45 cars fell off their view and then 48 popped back up.

Graham

[Mahesh]

My Sprint has been hiding away since 1993, only to emerge this year.

[Pippin]

My Sprint is still in hiding!

[Carledo]

My Sprint auto had been in hiding from 1994 till I bought it and applied for a V5. This thoroughly woke the sleeping giant at DVLA and now it's sorned
But there must indeed be thousands of cars sqirrelled away in this country that are neither taxed or sorned.
It is interesting and useful to note here that I had no trouble whatever getting my new V5 even though the car was not taxed or sorned, no hoops to jump through, no inspections to pass, just paid my £25 and the V5 came by return of post - for once a pleasant surprise from DVLA!

Steve