Been thinking (yes it hurts) about changing the ignition over to electronic of some sort on the Toledo,
so i would like advice on pro's, con's and what types and prices are out there, it is for a 13/60 herald engine.
also would like recommendations on up-grading the twin round head lamps, suppliers prices etc
thanks in advance
steve
Ignition and headlight advice
Ignition and headlight advice
1973 yellow Sprint L reg
1979 1500 SE T reg
1979 1500 SE V reg
1980 vermillion 1500hl W reg
1975 green 1500tc auto P reg
1971 wedgewood blue 2000 auto mk2 J reg
1979 Sandglow 1500HL auto V reg
1972 valencia blue Toledo 2 dr K reg
1973 Brown Toledo 2 dr L reg
1973 Green Toledo 2 dr L reg
1977 white Datsun 100a f2 S reg
1983 White Toyota Tercel 4x4
1987 Brown Toyota Tercel 4x4
1988 Blue Toyota Tercel 4x4
1999 Toyota Corolla vvti est
2005 Ford ranger thunder XLT
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1979 1500 SE T reg
1979 1500 SE V reg
1980 vermillion 1500hl W reg
1975 green 1500tc auto P reg
1971 wedgewood blue 2000 auto mk2 J reg
1979 Sandglow 1500HL auto V reg
1972 valencia blue Toledo 2 dr K reg
1973 Brown Toledo 2 dr L reg
1973 Green Toledo 2 dr L reg
1977 white Datsun 100a f2 S reg
1983 White Toyota Tercel 4x4
1987 Brown Toyota Tercel 4x4
1988 Blue Toyota Tercel 4x4
1999 Toyota Corolla vvti est
2005 Ford ranger thunder XLT
because one triumph just isnt enough
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Re: Ignition and headlight advice
I would recommend the Britpart electronic ignition kit but I don't know if it would fit your dizzy. You could fit a later Lucas 45D4 which will allow you to use the Britpart kit and it should give you pretty much the same advance curve. You can keep the existing coil unless you want to run a 12v one.
Are you considering a halogen upgrade? The usual suspects can supply these for the Herald which should work out a bit cheaper than the Dolly kit. Don't forget the relays (1 for the dipped beams and 1 for the main beams). I reckon the best place to situate the relays would be on the bulkhead which is the closest spot to both the battery and to break into the loom. This will keep the extra wires as short as possibleI think the Herald will use H4 bulbs (same as Dolly outers) but I'm not 100% certain.
Are you considering a halogen upgrade? The usual suspects can supply these for the Herald which should work out a bit cheaper than the Dolly kit. Don't forget the relays (1 for the dipped beams and 1 for the main beams). I reckon the best place to situate the relays would be on the bulkhead which is the closest spot to both the battery and to break into the loom. This will keep the extra wires as short as possibleI think the Herald will use H4 bulbs (same as Dolly outers) but I'm not 100% certain.
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West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
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Re: Ignition and headlight advice
Suggest you try an Accuspark unit dead simple to flat and trouble free.Tractor boy
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Re: Ignition and headlight advice
Wheras I would say spend a bit more and get the very well proven aldon/pertronix unit (same thing, aldon stick their label on the units to re-sell)
Cheapest place is retrorockets, pay in dollars, shipped from guildford (or my last one was, about 8 years ago)
So far in excess of 25 years worth of running these (4 cars), all totally fault-free.
Re headlights, do you mean a 4 headlight dolly, and you want better lights??
If so lots of options, not sure if the "crystal" headlights are available in that size but they are a decent improvement over std halogen types. And philips xtreme bulbs are good too. Finally. well worth fitting relays as they improve the brightness by reducing voltage drop, and also help protect the light switch. Not essential, but desirable. These work well, but may require modification for the 4 headlight system:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H4-H4-Headlig ... 19f3e8771c
Cheapest place is retrorockets, pay in dollars, shipped from guildford (or my last one was, about 8 years ago)
So far in excess of 25 years worth of running these (4 cars), all totally fault-free.
Re headlights, do you mean a 4 headlight dolly, and you want better lights??
If so lots of options, not sure if the "crystal" headlights are available in that size but they are a decent improvement over std halogen types. And philips xtreme bulbs are good too. Finally. well worth fitting relays as they improve the brightness by reducing voltage drop, and also help protect the light switch. Not essential, but desirable. These work well, but may require modification for the 4 headlight system:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H4-H4-Headlig ... 19f3e8771c
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Re: Ignition and headlight advice
Clive, the relays become essential when your indicator stalk burns out at the worst possible moment or when the sealed beam units fail at a similarly inconvenient time. Halogen bulbs are a bit easier (and cheaper) to replace.
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Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
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Re: Ignition and headlight advice
I've always liked the Lumenition electronic ignition systems. No, they are not cheap but they are reliable. The one on Wife's car has been there for 25 years. No fettling to fit, they just work. And I do like the feature of separating the distributor sensor from the electronic switching unit. It is a separate heatsink-electronic block that you can mount in a cooler place in the engine bay or even inside the interior.
Tony.
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