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Wiring issue

#1 Post by 80Sprint »

I thought I labelled everything when I took the dash out but have some issues now it's all back in.

The fuel gauge does not read, the choke light does not come on or the handbrake light. I though initially maybe the earths for these are connected but looking at the wiring diagram I would say not.
All working ok before it was taken out.

separate issues do you think or related ?
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I would say separate issues, the fuel guage earths at the tank, the choke cable (I think) through the cable itself and the handbrake light at the lever.
I have had a couple of problems with the big plug on the back of the warning light cluster but that would not affect the fuel guage.
Sorry but I think you are going to have to do this the hard way, tracing each circuit in turn.

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#3 Post by MIG Wielder »

Hi Mike, There is actually one rather subtle common connection. Can you have a look-see at the white wire on the fuse box that goes to an in-line splice. ( Not sure where this is physically) . It eventually connects down to the Handbrake switch, the choke warning light but you may also have problems with the IGN warning light , the low-fuel warning light and the Battery gauge. Note the error in the Sprint wiring diagram in the AKM 3529 workshop manual in this area . The brake failure warning light circuit is just wrong. As shown it puts a short circuit on this supply :-(
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Thanks for the feedback guys.

The choke was down to a connection issue, namely the numpty forgot to check it was properly connected :oops:

Checked the fuel gauge again and all seems to be connected ok but that still does not work. Fuel warning light is on as well but I am sure it's not that low. Gauge does not move at all.

I haven't really touched anything to do with the handbrake except the light cluster. Pushed that on and off a couple of times so connections seem ok as other lights are working.

I'll have to check back to the handbrake now for voltage.
Not been on a run due to the weather so I could do with checking the temp gauge is ok. I have 11.5 on one side of the voltage stabiliser and 9.5 the other.
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Mike

Could you take the fuel gauge out and put 12 v across the terminals - this should make the needle move.

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#6 Post by Jon Tilson »

Give the front to rear loom connector behind the parcel tray on t he passenger side a wiggle...

You an also try earthing out the gauge wire in the boot while looking through the back window to see if the gauge moves.

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#7 Post by 80Sprint »

The gauge moved to full when I put an earth at the sender connection.

The handbrake is a white lead as far as I can tell on the diagram. All items routed to white work so if the white connection dot on the diagram is a connection on the car then I assume it could be this. I found a white lead in the connector at the steering side and that gave me 12v both sides. No reading at the lever. I will check on the passenger side Jon.
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#8 Post by Jon Tilson »

So the connector is good then and so is the gauge....you have a sunk float or duff sender.

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#9 Post by 80Sprint »

2 out of 3 sorted now. Hopefully I am on a roll .

Just the handbrake light remains an issue.
I could not see a white wire in the footwell Jon at the connector.
No voltage at the handbrake.
12v at the white wire on the back of the cluster gauge.
Worked ok before I took the dash out as far as I recall.

It's really annoying how much time you can waste on the little issues.:evil:
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#10 Post by Flyfisherman »

Mike

Look for a Black / white cable on the right hand side of the gearbox tunnel - this cable goes to the handbrake, there are other cables within this loom - these go to the seat belt switches.

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My wiring looks original but I have a white wire out of the back of the warning cluster with a black ring tag on it. At the handbrake it is black and purple. This does not match up with the wiring diagram I have.

I can't get a reading puncturing the wire near the bulkhead and then it runs in to the main loom. Where do I go from there ?

Should I have 12v on the wire at the handbrake ?
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#12 Post by 80Sprint »

:D cracked it.
Realised the switch is earth not live. Pulled the switch out and checked the wire with a feed.
Switch worn so I dismantled it and found a copper rivet the same side. Light now comes on.

It's just weird how it happened at the same time as the dash came out.
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#13 Post by Flyfisherman »

80Sprint wrote: At the handbrake it is black and purple. This does not match up with the wiring diagram I have.
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Check mine today and the colour of the cable to my hand brake is black / purple. Looking at the wiring diagram the only cable coloured black / purple was used to feed the brake failure switch and then to earth (when fitted).

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#14 Post by 80Sprint »

That's what puzzled me. Another error in the manual then. We should have sticky on manual errors.
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