FAM1718 replacement
FAM1718 replacement
Given the reported problems with fam1718 replacements from some suppliers, I have been looking around and seen this.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kreuzgelenk-L ... SwA3dYP4EA
They look more substantial than others and I wondered if anybody had fitted them.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kreuzgelenk-L ... SwA3dYP4EA
They look more substantial than others and I wondered if anybody had fitted them.
Re: FAM1718 replacement
To be honest Alan, I would just buy the poly repair kit from Witor and rebuild it. Ive done 2 now and they feel great. If the splines are good theres nothing else to go wrong apart from the bushes.
http://www.superflex.co.uk/proddetail.p ... F374-1179K
Tony
http://www.superflex.co.uk/proddetail.p ... F374-1179K
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Re: FAM1718 replacement
Tony
That sounds a good idea but how do I get the screws out and, if I do, how do I make sure that they are secure when I put them back.
That sounds a good idea but how do I get the screws out and, if I do, how do I make sure that they are secure when I put them back.
Re: FAM1718 replacement
Just unscrew them and they will come out. The peen isnt that strong really and will pull back in when coming throught he thread. When refitting use locktight on the threads
Tony

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Re: FAM1718 replacement
You could of course just buy a new one from Rimmers - their latest sale prices for these are cheaper and they do the U/J version as well
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/ItemSearch- ... rc=UK2316W
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/ItemSearch- ... rc=UK2316W
Re: FAM1718 replacement
I have seen this offer but there have been reports, I think on the forum, of some aftermarket units failing.You could of course just buy a new one from Rimmers
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Re: FAM1718 replacement
I had one of the replacement FAM1718s fail catastrophically while driving - shared the skit out of me is all I can say.
That one was exactly like the ones from Rimmer's. Though I must admit it was not actually bought from Rimmer's. But I've looked at the ones they do sell and it is exactly the same - much smaller diameter setscrews than the original FAM1718s, which is what sheared through. And even with the originals, all the steering effort going through a pair of setscrews (twice), where if one goes the other of the pair nearly must fail too, gives me the willies. The only concern I have about the UJs over the rubber cushioned originals is whether they might reduce the life of the bulkhead bush.
I've had both the pressed and cast type UJ's since. And while I'm sure the pressed ones are up to the job if fitted right and everything else is okay, for the extra cost, I really like the cast ones. I bought the cast one to replace the pressed UJ because I thought there was a problem with it working loose on the shaft, but it turned out to be higher up the column that was the problem. But since it was out, and because I had a replacement, and because that was much more substantial, I put the cast one into the re-built column. The pressed one is going in the Herald when I have access to the column next time.
Graham
That one was exactly like the ones from Rimmer's. Though I must admit it was not actually bought from Rimmer's. But I've looked at the ones they do sell and it is exactly the same - much smaller diameter setscrews than the original FAM1718s, which is what sheared through. And even with the originals, all the steering effort going through a pair of setscrews (twice), where if one goes the other of the pair nearly must fail too, gives me the willies. The only concern I have about the UJs over the rubber cushioned originals is whether they might reduce the life of the bulkhead bush.
I've had both the pressed and cast type UJ's since. And while I'm sure the pressed ones are up to the job if fitted right and everything else is okay, for the extra cost, I really like the cast ones. I bought the cast one to replace the pressed UJ because I thought there was a problem with it working loose on the shaft, but it turned out to be higher up the column that was the problem. But since it was out, and because I had a replacement, and because that was much more substantial, I put the cast one into the re-built column. The pressed one is going in the Herald when I have access to the column next time.
Graham
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Factory 1977 TR7 Sprint FHC VVC 697S (Now all of, but still needs putting together)
B&Y 73 Dolomite Sprint UVB 274M (kids!)
1970 Maroon 13/60 Herald Convertable (wife's fun car).
Ehh.......
I have never ever seen a cast steering UJ
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If you don't have a rebuildable OE coupling the only sensible alternative is a T2000 manual steering UJ.
These are forged. Chris Witor sells these for somewhat less than the Ford specialists (who market the same
item as Escort group four spec. ).
The downside is that the upper UJ shaft needs to be shortened.
Ian.

If you don't have a rebuildable OE coupling the only sensible alternative is a T2000 manual steering UJ.
These are forged. Chris Witor sells these for somewhat less than the Ford specialists (who market the same
item as Escort group four spec. ).
The downside is that the upper UJ shaft needs to be shortened.
Ian.
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Re: FAM1718 replacement
I've got the group 4 escort forged one, and it didn't need the upper shaft modifying. It does need the lower part of the column pulling into the car, to be fitted and removed though.
Graham.
Graham.
The 16v Slant 4 engine is more fun than the 3.5 V8, because you mostly drive it on the upslope of the torque curve.
Factory 1977 TR7 Sprint FHC VVC 697S (Now all of, but still needs putting together)
B&Y 73 Dolomite Sprint UVB 274M (kids!)
1970 Maroon 13/60 Herald Convertable (wife's fun car).
Factory 1977 TR7 Sprint FHC VVC 697S (Now all of, but still needs putting together)
B&Y 73 Dolomite Sprint UVB 274M (kids!)
1970 Maroon 13/60 Herald Convertable (wife's fun car).
Re: FAM1718 replacement
I wonder if this would do the job
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-m ... SwB09YIukF
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-m ... SwB09YIukF
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Re: FAM1718 replacement
Proper NOS Triumph one here for £20, Ebay item number 172436289999
Steve
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'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!
Maverick Triumph, Servicing, Repairs, Electrical, Recomissioning, MOT prep, Trackerjack brake fitting service.
Apprentice served Triumph Specialist for 50 years. PM for more info or quotes.