lumenition coil 6v or 12v

[soe8m]

There is a metric solution in the form of adding a relay.

The start wire take off can be at three places.

1. At the iginiton switch
2. At the gearbox wiring connector
3. At the starter.

Add a relay and have the 85 at ground, the 87 to the coil +, the 30 and 86 on the starter wire take off.

When at the starter connecting the old bypass white/yellow wire to the actual white red starter wire, leaves you at the coil all the connections needed. Just a relay near the coil and no need for 20 wires from all over the place to the coil.

The best is to have on the 30 is a wire taken from the "brown" side of the fuse box but that's an extra wire.

Jeroen

[Carledo]

Alright, I just LOVE push button start! My first car (say it quietly, an MG Magnette ZA) had it and i've been addicted ever since, along with leather upholstery and a wood dash!
But even Jeroen would have to admit, it's an ELEGANT solution, if not the simplest!

Steve

[bluetriumphsteve]

This is all getting a little too confusing with all different opinions on the matter, can someone please just send me a simple wiring diagram of what I need to do to make it work

As said its an 1850, I want to fit lumenition optronic systerm with lumenition coil and a Wosp starter motor

Sorry if thats a bit direct, but its getting a little confusing with some saying use the ballest dont use it, amps, ohms etc. I just want a simple wiring diagram to how to set it up given that origanlly its a 6v coil and the lumenition optronic has a 12v coil

Cheers

Steve

[Carledo]

OK, so you are using the Optronic with it's purpose made 12v coil. So its easy!

1) Fit 12v coil to car

2) Discard and tape up original coil +ve lead(s).

3) Make up and fit new lead from fusebox WHITE wire section to coil +ve

4) Fit Optronic system as per instructions

5) start up and drive away!

Steve

[bluetriumphsteve]

Cheers mate,

That's all I wanted to know

Steve

[soe8m]

[bluetriumphsteve]

Cheers Jeroen

That's given me something to go off

Steve

[Galileo]

It's the internet, opinions are free and plenty but I can understand why your confused if electrics are not your thing. I'm going to butt out as I don't want to add to your confusion any further and Joroen knows his stuff without hinderance from me!

Carledo Steve, you're forgetting that it's the MS4 he has which at 1.5 ohms needs it's supplied ballast or to quote Kenneth Williams:

[bluetriumphsteve]

Galileo like the attachment, very good!

Cheers

Steve

[Galileo]

I've been waiting years to use that gif!

[AlanH]

Steve

I find the Rimmers coil description a bit confusing, surely it's not a 12v coil but a ballasted 6v. So when Carledo Steve says 'fit 12v coil' he does not mean that one. Steve please correct me if I'm wrong.

diagram :-

http://www.holden.co.uk/productimagesTD/030_250.jpg

The wiring is fairly straight forward, the red wire would go to the fuse box.

If you already have a ballast resistor then it should be simple to swap the coil and resistor. if not then you will need to disconnect the ballasted feed to the coil and wire in the resistor (same wire from the fuse box).

Lumenition seem to like ballasted coils so I would keep it, make sure that it is a tight fit on the solenoid and put a bit of sealant around it.

If I have got it wrong, can somebody correct me.

Alan

[Carledo]

Well it seems to me, that a 12v coil is what you use for a 12v system! A ballasted system requires a 6v coil or you will indeed be "frying tonight" and if that is a Lumenition 12v Coil, then it should run a Lumenition optronic system at 12v. Nowhere I know does anyone say you fit a ballast resistor to a 12v coil to run it at 6v, surely, that way lies madness!

Steve

[Carledo]

Am I and possibly everyone else here missing something?

IE RIMMERS have listed this MS4 coil as 12v, BUT IS IT? The picture doesn't show one way or the other.

The genuine Lumenition Wiring diagram put up by Alan shows a ballast fitted, but no starting bypass and thinking hard (it's been a long time since I fitted one) I seem to recall that I didn't use a bypass (though I did use a remote ballast and a ballasted coil but not the expensive Lumenition one) on my GT6. So the system probably wouldn't like the bypass overload.

My apologies to Steve, but I think we need more info on this MS4 coil before applying anyones advice! Including, most emphatically, mine!

Steve

[AlanH]

Steve (Sorry I put this up before I saw your lat post)

Looking at the coil Steve has bought

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GCL132MS

It says 12v Ballast why would you have a ballast resistor with a 12v coil?

Alan

[Carledo]

Steve (Sorry I put this up before I saw your lat post)

Looking at the coil Steve has bought

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GCL132MS

It says 12v Ballast why would you have a ballast resistor with a 12v coil?

Alan

Great minds thinking alike!

Steve