Heater pipe work
-
- TDC Member
- Posts: 1792
- Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:53 pm
- Location: Harrow Middlesex
Heater pipe work
for my 74 sprint what size heater pipes do i need ? Chris witor does two types
Thanks dave/color]
Thanks dave/color]
- Flyfisherman
- Guest contributor
- Posts: 980
- Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:42 am
Re: Heater pipe work
new to this wrote:for my 74 sprint what size heater pipes do i need ? Chris witor does two types
Thanks dave/color]
Dave
Do you mean the rubber pipes going to the heater matrix (two pipes going to the bulkhead) like this one
https://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GZA1336
Paul
-
- TDC Member
- Posts: 1792
- Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:53 pm
- Location: Harrow Middlesex
Re: Heater pipe work
Flyfisherman wrote:new to this wrote:for my 74 sprint what size heater pipes do i need ? Chris witor does two types
Thanks dave/color]
Dave
Do you mean the rubber pipes going to the heater matrix (two pipes going to the bulkhead) like this one
https://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GZA1336
Paul
Paul
No i mean the metal H pipe,theres two types what one do i need
Thanks Dave
-
- TDC Shropshire Area Organiser
- Posts: 7242
- Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:12 pm
- Location: Highley, Shropshire
Re: Heater pipe work
It depends on year of engine which H pipe to use, the smaller one is (IIRC) up to 76 and the bigger one is 76>. If you don't have one at all, chances are yours is the early type as the bigger one bolts in under the inlet manifold and is never normally removed.
Steve
Steve
'73 2 door Toledo with Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 8v engine (The Carledo)
'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!
Maverick Triumph, Servicing, Repairs, Electrical, Recomissioning, MOT prep, Trackerjack brake fitting service.
Apprentice served Triumph Specialist for 50 years. PM for more info or quotes.
'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!
Maverick Triumph, Servicing, Repairs, Electrical, Recomissioning, MOT prep, Trackerjack brake fitting service.
Apprentice served Triumph Specialist for 50 years. PM for more info or quotes.
- Flyfisherman
- Guest contributor
- Posts: 980
- Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:42 am
Re: Heater pipe work
new to this wrote:Flyfisherman wrote:new to this wrote:for my 74 sprint what size heater pipes do i need ? Chris witor does two types
Thanks dave/color]
Dave
Do you mean the rubber pipes going to the heater matrix (two pipes going to the bulkhead) like this one
https://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GZA1336
Paul
No i mean the metal H pipe,theres two types what one do i need
Thanks Dave
Dave as you have a 74 sprint, I'm going to say you need the smaller one.
http://www.chriswitor.com/prodimages/152524SS_small.jpg
Paul
-
- TDC Member
- Posts: 1792
- Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:53 pm
- Location: Harrow Middlesex
Re: Heater pipe work
PaulFlyfisherman wrote:Dave as you have a 74 sprint, I'm going to say you need the smaller one.new to this wrote:Flyfisherman wrote:
Dave
Do you mean the rubber pipes going to the heater matrix (two pipes going to the bulkhead) like this one
https://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GZA1336
Paul
No i mean the metal H pipe,theres two types what one do i need
Thanks Dave
http://www.chriswitor.com/prodimages/152524SS_small.jpg
Paul
Thanks for your help
Dave
-
- TDC Member
- Posts: 1792
- Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:53 pm
- Location: Harrow Middlesex
Re: Heater pipe work
SteveCarledo wrote:It depends on year of engine which H pipe to use, the smaller one is (IIRC) up to 76 and the bigger one is 76>. If you don't have one at all, chances are yours is the early type as the bigger one bolts in under the inlet manifold and is never normally removed.
Steve
Thanks,is it possible to change from the small H-pipe to the larger H-pipe set up,and is there any advantage ?
Dave
-
- TDC Shropshire Area Organiser
- Posts: 7242
- Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:12 pm
- Location: Highley, Shropshire
Re: Heater pipe work
Not sure if a change is possible, you may need a different inlet manifold, but i've never tried! As far as I know, the only advantage of the later type is that you don't have an inaccessible rubber hose under the inlet.new to this wrote:SteveCarledo wrote:It depends on year of engine which H pipe to use, the smaller one is (IIRC) up to 76 and the bigger one is 76>. If you don't have one at all, chances are yours is the early type as the bigger one bolts in under the inlet manifold and is never normally removed.
Steve
Thanks,is it possible to change from the small H-pipe to the larger H-pipe set up,and is there any advantage ?
Dave
Steve
'73 2 door Toledo with Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 8v engine (The Carledo)
'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!
Maverick Triumph, Servicing, Repairs, Electrical, Recomissioning, MOT prep, Trackerjack brake fitting service.
Apprentice served Triumph Specialist for 50 years. PM for more info or quotes.
'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!
Maverick Triumph, Servicing, Repairs, Electrical, Recomissioning, MOT prep, Trackerjack brake fitting service.
Apprentice served Triumph Specialist for 50 years. PM for more info or quotes.
- Flyfisherman
- Guest contributor
- Posts: 980
- Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:42 am
Re: Heater pipe work
The standard inlet manifolds for a sprint are all the same, but to do the swap as you want to do you will require the following parts:
UKC3309 - Adaptor water pipe
TL11 - olive
101302 - Nut - pipe to adaptor
TKC1196 - stainless steel pipes
152525 - Rubber pipe
2 x jubilee clips
Paul
UKC3309 - Adaptor water pipe
TL11 - olive
101302 - Nut - pipe to adaptor
TKC1196 - stainless steel pipes
152525 - Rubber pipe
2 x jubilee clips
Paul
-
- TDC Member
- Posts: 1792
- Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:53 pm
- Location: Harrow Middlesex
Re: Heater pipe work
PaulFlyfisherman wrote:The standard inlet manifolds for a sprint are all the same, but to do the swap as you want to do you will require the following parts:
UKC3309 - Adaptor water pipe
TL11 - olive
101302 - Nut - pipe to adaptor
TKC1196 - stainless steel pipes
152525 - Rubber pipe
2 x jubilee clips
Paul
thats good to know,the larger H pipe will be easier to modifiy
Dave
-
- TDC Member
- Posts: 1792
- Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:53 pm
- Location: Harrow Middlesex
Re: Heater pipe work
Hi has any one cut open a H heater pipe,what id like to know is where the H by pass section is would that be a smaller hole in the pipe ?
Thanks Dave
Thanks Dave
- Flyfisherman
- Guest contributor
- Posts: 980
- Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:42 am
Re: Heater pipe work
new to this wrote:Hi has any one cut open a H heater pipe,what id like to know is where the H by pass section is would that be a smaller hole in the pipe ?
Thanks Dave
Dave
have a look at the this thread viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17830
Paul
-
- TDC Member
- Posts: 1792
- Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:53 pm
- Location: Harrow Middlesex
Re: Heater pipe work
paulFlyfisherman wrote:new to this wrote:Hi has any one cut open a H heater pipe,what id like to know is where the H by pass section is would that be a smaller hole in the pipe ?
Thanks Dave
Dave
have a look at the this thread viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17830
Paul
Thanks,does the water flow from the pump and return to the manifold ?
Dave
Re: Heater pipe work
No, the heater is in parallel to the radiator (it's doing precisely the same job just putting the heat somewhere useful) cold (relatively) water goes into the block, round the cylinders and up into the head. The hot water comes out the front of the head to the stat then depending on the temperature either goes through the radiator to cool down or straight back to the inlet side of the pump.
A smaller amount of hot water comes out at the stat to heat the inlet manifold and the heater takes its feed from that, the heater return goes to the inlet side of the pump as the water should be considerably colder.
The H in the pipework is to still allow some flow through the manifold when the heater is off so you don't have a hot front carb and a cold rear one.
A smaller amount of hot water comes out at the stat to heat the inlet manifold and the heater takes its feed from that, the heater return goes to the inlet side of the pump as the water should be considerably colder.
The H in the pipework is to still allow some flow through the manifold when the heater is off so you don't have a hot front carb and a cold rear one.