Sprint starter motor alternative

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Sprint starter motor alternative

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November 2017 I fitted this starter to my Sprint. It needed a 14mm spacer making and a bit of fettling as the gears were in mesh too tight so I used a dreadnought file to "move" the starter out of mesh about 0.5mm. Been started up at least 3 times every week while I was working on my coolant mod and has been very good. I'd even say it spins the engine faster than the truck starter that was original :)

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So, what's the replacement from, Tony? And can you supply spacers to cope?

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Its from a 200 series Rover Steve but not sure which. Part number is ADU 8919. My spacer was a one off so Im not making them no sorry. A lot nicer to fit :)

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Was the spacer flat? A dwg to a laser cutter would see a quantity made in a flash...if you’ll pardon the pun.
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I wonder if the Rover starter could be rebuilt with a Dolly dog gear?
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Plate I had made is flat but with the spigot machined on too. The gear on the starter is standard (Rover). When I first had it made I told the guy to copy the details of the Sprint one but it was in mesh too tightly so I relieved it to fit with files etc. The offset from the bolt centreline to the pinion centreline must be a tad different. I have about 5 of these starters in stock,all new but from 1990. I had bought some clearance stuff years ago thinking they'll come in handy and 15 years later hey presto lol.
I'm flat out at the minute but if I get chance I'll get both starters measured properly on the cmm and get a drawing done.

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that part number cross references with the following :
ROVER ADU8919
LUCAS ... LRS00541
VALEO 455731
BOSCH 0986014721
QUINTO... 8055541
FRIESEN 8055541
DELCO REMY DRS3126

looks to be a good alternative.
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Does anyone else use one of the new high torque ones?
I have an RAC406 on mine and it seems to do a pretty good job - so far.
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Is that from another car Russ or a bespoke high torque thats £200?

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dursley92 wrote: Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:30 pm Does anyone else use one of the new high torque ones?
I have an RAC406 on mine and it seems to do a pretty good job - so far.
A couple of people mentioned fitting them 8 years ago, you could ask them how they got on for a long term test.
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tony g wrote: Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:49 pm Is that from another car Russ or a bespoke high torque thats £200?

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So far as I know the RAC406 is listed for Sprint and TR7. I run mine on a Sprint engine actually IN a TR7 so that seems to cover all options.
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dursley92 wrote: Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:30 pm Does anyone else use one of the new high torque ones?
I have an RAC406 on mine and it seems to do a pretty good job - so far.
Yes; Doesn't time fly when you are having fun. I saw my posting there from " Post subject: Re: Starter motors. Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:00 pm"

Just over 10 years ago ! Yes the 1850 one and the MGB are still going O.K. !

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For most starters, a change of the inexpensive solenoid transforms the motor.
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Does anyone else use one of the new high torque ones?
Yes, fitted one more than 5 years ago to the Pageant car and it really is a fit and forget. Mine came with the option of the additional terminal to the ignition. Never had a single issue, works perfectly every time. Might have been expensive to start with but if I needed to would do it all again.

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ham204 wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:52 am For most starters, a change of the inexpensive solenoid transforms the motor.
Yeah, that was my thought. Starters are pretty simple old lumps, most would need an inexpensive rebuild. A burnt out terminal or sticking solenoid, not difficult to do.
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