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Garage Maintained?

#1 Post by VYO 372M »

Over the years I have bought several cars that have been maintained by the seller's local garage.

I have always been a bit dubious as to how well a garage can service a car.
Not that a garage can't service a car, but more to do with how much they decide to miss out or overlook.

To be fair, I have come across DIY sellers that clearly do not know what they are doing.
Things have been put back incorrectly, settings are incorrect etc.

The above could be true of a garage as well, personally I prefer to do all the servicing and maintenance work myself, that way I know it has been done.

Would you trust a garage to maintain your Triumph or classic car?

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#2 Post by SprintMWU773V »

I wouldn't trust a garage to do much on any of my cars, but occasionally I have found a few who seem to know what they are doing. They are hard to find but when you do find them stick with them.

It's a bit like buying a newish car with FSH, doesn't mean much I service my cars to a higher standard than most garages would whn it comes to routine servicing.
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#3 Post by Neil907 »

I allways do all my own work, you here of to many dogy stories. I thought about getting some work done to my rx7 when I had a few troubles but soon discoverd that I new more than my local mazda dealer which wasnt much so just got stuck in.
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#4 Post by Nathan Mwk 627G »

Im lucky as the garage iv used since my mum took my car for an MOT at 14 knows that i know my way around a car, he loves the triumph and my other vauxhall!! we have 3 modern cars in my family and they all go there for servicing, mot's etc!!

I do most work myself, but if i not sure, not got the right tools or garage space then they go to the garage!!

I can confidently say i trust my local garage with any car i take to him!!

Nathan
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#5 Post by jay »

saved myself couple of hundred quid by doing front brake replacement. Kwik fit guessed price of parts as they were not listed on their computer. How c**p is that? I had to wait 2 days for the guess as well :evil:

Guess you can get better than a kwik fit fitter even with my total novice status. Thank god for haynes manuals is what I say :D

Jay
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#6 Post by Dollyboy »

most basic servicing i'll do myself if i've got the tools to cope with it.

welding - while i can weld i dont have the experience for the standard of job i like so that goes to someone i know :wink:

basically theres not many places i'd trust, i'd have to get to know them first and see them working on something in tune with the car i want work doing on.

orange is the second car i've demolished and rebuilt but the first on a proper nut n bolt scale. the toledo will be a rolling resto job i think, it'll catch up with orange in terms of whats being done, i.e. bushes, suspension etc, this stuff will be done as budget and time allows, however it's not going to be to the extent of orange. the aim will be to get the toledo on the road and keep her on the road... most of this work i'll do myself
1300dolly

#7 Post by 1300dolly »

NO.
i spend a lot of time picking up cars that have just had a service/cam belt change /new thisand that.

In my trade you get to know the dodgy garages and i am shocked by the amount of people who use one particular guy who has a very bad reputation.( i always try to point them in a different direction)

there are only two garages in southampton that i would trust to take my own cars to.
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#8 Post by Nick C »

Which ones Justyn? I've heard some nasty horror stories about some Soton garages, but really good things about a couple of them... (best make it a PM seeing as this is public ;) )
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#9 Post by Stagger »

What constitutes a service on a modern car?
Change the oil, filters (including £20 for the pollen filter) "checking the car over" and wait for it - measuring and recording the depth of all five tyre treads in three places to an accuracy of 0.1mm. £150. Bodywork inspection to keep up the warranty - That's extra sir!
And the exhaust that was off the back hanger when it went in - still the same.
Servicing just seems a scam on modern cars.
Mark.
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#10 Post by 1300dolly »

the scam is that when you buy a new car the dealer will imply that they have to service it to maintain the warrenty.

NOT TRUE

as long as it is a vat registered garage sevices it as per the reccomendations in the service book and you get a itemised receipt and the book stamped (not written in pen) the manufacturer has to accept that as serviced.

this could save you £100s in the first few years of a cars life.
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#11 Post by george »

you have to use dealer parts to keep your waranty alive though
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#12 Post by VYO 372M »

1300dolly wrote:the scam is that when you buy a new car the dealer will imply that they have to service it to maintain the warrenty.

NOT TRUE
You absolutely correct, this has been a misconception for years!

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#13 Post by bifold »

george wrote:you have to use dealer parts to keep your waranty alive though
Nailed George,vat garage, dealer parts inc oil and proper stamp :D
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#14 Post by Autonet7 »

Personally, I never trust any garage. A garage has to earn your trust, not just expect it.

My experience of having modern company cars serviced at main dealer networks is to say the least disappointing. Most garages/technicians know very little about the true mechanics of a car and rely on plugging a laptop in to tell them whats wrong. Even then, if the problem doesn't flash in front of their eyes as a tabulated fault code, they appear clueless.

I (or my company) recently had the misfortune of suffering a combined bill in excess of £500 for 4 hours diagnostic work from 2 BMW dealers just for labour and still they failed to find the fault. One of the garages tried to blame 2 of the coils and suggested their replacement for a mere £250 plus labour. In the end I bought an air flow sensor, fitted it myself and cured the problem.

This isn't to say that 'technicians' are all clueless, but it appears these days that most of them have qualified in a classroom with a computer rather than from 'hands-on' experience.

I agree that most modern day services consist of little more than an oil/filter change and a tyre check. I guess that the garages, modern technology and accountants are to blame, not the technicians themselves.

You could also blame todays' modern motorists who invariably have no idea and couldn't care less what goes on beneath that shiny paintwork as long as keeps going. As long as people are willing to pay through the nose for little more than oil and a filter, garages will continue to flourish.

If you are lucky enough to have found a trustworthy and reliable garage/mechanic, stick with them. They're a fast disappearing resource.
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#15 Post by Sprintinbits »

My company Mazda had squealing front brakes. Four times I had the car checked over by the main dealer in Bishop's Stortford.

Four times I was told the fault didn't exist, an extended road test failed to show the fault (although the car covered 0.7 miles during one of the tests).
Each time I was told the whole front braking system had been stripped and checked with no faults found.

When I heard the tell tale sound of metal against metal I refused to drive the car and had it towed to the same garage.
To enable them to trace the fault more quickly, I photocopied the page from the handbook and highlighted the paragraph which mentioned that if you hear a squeal from the brakes, get them checked at a Mazda specialist :wink:

Then made me feel fantastic when they told me I'd be lucky to get it fixed the same day and made out they were shuffling other work around to get the car back on the road.
They then stung our lease company for new discs and pads as they were responsible for all maintenance.

Don't know if our lease company swallowed the cost of the discs but I made sure I told them that the car had been to the garage four times in as many months for squealing brakes.

Needless to say, when my company booked the car in for a service at the same garage, I told them that I wouldn't drive the car unless they had it independently checked that the service had been carried out properly.

Luckily there is a main dealer in Braintree that are far, far better so that's where it gets its work done now.

It's a real shame as the Mazda 6 is by far the best driving car in its class. I say that with conviction having driven every other car and I even prefer it to the new Mondeo Ghia TDCi (with sports pack :D ).
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