Bonnet buffer fitting

For everything to do with Dolomites, Toledos, FWD cars and Dolomite-based kitcars.
Message
Author
User avatar
GrahamFountain
Guest contributor
Guest contributor
Posts: 1735
Joined: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:35 pm
Location: St Annes on Sea, Lancs.

Bonnet buffer fitting

#1 Post by GrahamFountain »

Can anybody post pics of where and how the bonnet buffers (P.N. 619551) fix. I can see roughly where they go on pics on the Net, but there're no holes or owt thereabouts on my car.
I've laid a pair in the gutters, and I like what they do - well not the bit where they stick to the underside of the bonnet and fly off when I open it, but the way they stabilize it when its closed.
Graham
The 16v Slant 4 engine is more fun than the 3.5 V8, because you mostly drive it on the upslope of the torque curve.

Factory 1977 TR7 Sprint FHC VVC 697S (Now all of, but still needs putting together)
B&Y 73 Dolomite Sprint UVB 274M (kids!)
1970 Maroon 13/60 Herald Convertable (wife's fun car).
User avatar
Len Hughes
TDC Member
Posts: 213
Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:38 pm
Location: Horndean, Hampshire

Re: Bonnet buffer fitting

#2 Post by Len Hughes »

Image

Is that the one?
1973 Mimosa Sprint
1973 Magenta TR6
GTS290N
TDC Member
Posts: 1022
Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:00 pm

Re: Bonnet buffer fitting

#3 Post by GTS290N »

Image

Image

Image

Image

I think I'll use tigerseal
User avatar
GrahamFountain
Guest contributor
Guest contributor
Posts: 1735
Joined: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:35 pm
Location: St Annes on Sea, Lancs.

Re: Bonnet buffer fitting

#4 Post by GrahamFountain »

That's the one.

On GTS290N's pictures, they seem to be a lot further from the wing than I'd expecting and the other way around. But I see where to drill the hole.

Fixing looks like a black japanned No6 or No8 flange head with a 1/2" od washer. Is that right? 'Spect I could use a black stick in the hot glue gun.

Anybody know if there's a real advantage to the poly ones?

Graham
The 16v Slant 4 engine is more fun than the 3.5 V8, because you mostly drive it on the upslope of the torque curve.

Factory 1977 TR7 Sprint FHC VVC 697S (Now all of, but still needs putting together)
B&Y 73 Dolomite Sprint UVB 274M (kids!)
1970 Maroon 13/60 Herald Convertable (wife's fun car).
User avatar
TrustNo1
Guest contributor
Guest contributor
Posts: 1635
Joined: Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:48 pm

Re: Bonnet buffer fitting

#5 Post by TrustNo1 »

..........
Last edited by TrustNo1 on Tue May 28, 2019 8:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Some people are like Slinky's, they serve no real purpose in life but bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
User avatar
TrustNo1
Guest contributor
Guest contributor
Posts: 1635
Joined: Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:48 pm

Re: Bonnet buffer fitting

#6 Post by TrustNo1 »

The ones on the blue car are incorrect, the screw is in the right place but they should be as in Len's pic. as for poly ones I can't see any benefit other than they would be stiffer which you don't want on a bonnet buffer.
Some people are like Slinky's, they serve no real purpose in life but bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
User avatar
GrahamFountain
Guest contributor
Guest contributor
Posts: 1735
Joined: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:35 pm
Location: St Annes on Sea, Lancs.

Re: Bonnet buffer fitting

#7 Post by GrahamFountain »

Yeah, if I try and fit them like the blue car, the bonnet won't shut. I'd have to cut them down maybe 1/2" or so.

Graham
The 16v Slant 4 engine is more fun than the 3.5 V8, because you mostly drive it on the upslope of the torque curve.

Factory 1977 TR7 Sprint FHC VVC 697S (Now all of, but still needs putting together)
B&Y 73 Dolomite Sprint UVB 274M (kids!)
1970 Maroon 13/60 Herald Convertable (wife's fun car).
User avatar
Mad Mart
TDC Member
Posts: 8532
Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:48 pm
Location: Winscombe, North Somerset, England
Contact:

Re: Bonnet buffer fitting

#8 Post by Mad Mart »

iirc it was only the early models that had these?
Sprintless for the first time in 35+ years. :boggle2: ... Still Sprintless.

Engines, Gearboxes, Overdrives etc. rebuilt. PM me.


2012 Porsche Boxster 981 S


Image
User avatar
GrahamFountain
Guest contributor
Guest contributor
Posts: 1735
Joined: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:35 pm
Location: St Annes on Sea, Lancs.

Re: Bonnet buffer fitting

#9 Post by GrahamFountain »

I guessed they were only on some models. I don't think my 1973 Sprint had them fitted anyway.

However, having tried them just laid in the gutters, I very much like what they do in making the bonnet fit snug in the hole. So, as the only downside I can see is a couple (more) additional holes in the shell, I think I shall fit them.

Graham
The 16v Slant 4 engine is more fun than the 3.5 V8, because you mostly drive it on the upslope of the torque curve.

Factory 1977 TR7 Sprint FHC VVC 697S (Now all of, but still needs putting together)
B&Y 73 Dolomite Sprint UVB 274M (kids!)
1970 Maroon 13/60 Herald Convertable (wife's fun car).
User avatar
tangocharlie1
TDC South Hants Area Organiser
Posts: 792
Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:57 pm
Location: eastleigh, hants

Re: Bonnet buffer fitting

#10 Post by tangocharlie1 »

My 1973 Sprint has them the same place as Len's. I just thought they were standard throughout the range and years if not then i have learnt something new. :D
1973 Triumph Dolomite Sprint
1972 Triumph Stag
1973 Triumph TR6
User avatar
TrustNo1
Guest contributor
Guest contributor
Posts: 1635
Joined: Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:48 pm

Re: Bonnet buffer fitting

#11 Post by TrustNo1 »

My 1979 1300 and the 1981 1500HL has them fitted and they also show in the parts book for 1976 onward (published 1977) cars as part number 619551.
Some people are like Slinky's, they serve no real purpose in life but bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
User avatar
Bumpa
TDC Member
Posts: 691
Joined: Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:08 am
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland

Re: Bonnet buffer fitting

#12 Post by Bumpa »

My 1977 1850HL doesn't have them.
Mike
(1969 MGB GTV8, 1977 Dolomite 1850HL, 1971 MGB roadster now all three on the road)
Carledo
TDC Shropshire Area Organiser
Posts: 7248
Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:12 pm
Location: Highley, Shropshire

Re: Bonnet buffer fitting

#13 Post by Carledo »

AFAIK, all Dolomites had them from new, but they a) rot away and fall out, b) get removed for wing replacement and not replaced.

This second cause also accounts for variation in position as the original mounting hole is often obscured by the new wing, so people guess and hope, or, more often than not, just leave them out!

On cars where they have been deleted for whatever reason, I can't say i've noticed any increase in rattles or paint chipping from bad fit, more than you'd get anyway, bad fit is bad fit! It's easily adjustable!

Steve
'73 2 door Toledo with Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 8v engine (The Carledo)
'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!

Maverick Triumph, Servicing, Repairs, Electrical, Recomissioning, MOT prep, Trackerjack brake fitting service.
Apprentice served Triumph Specialist for 50 years. PM for more info or quotes.
User avatar
Bumpa
TDC Member
Posts: 691
Joined: Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:08 am
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland

Re: Bonnet buffer fitting

#14 Post by Bumpa »

Carledo wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 11:20 am AFAIK, all Dolomites had them from new, but they a) rot away and fall out, b) get removed for wing replacement and not replaced.

Steve
I'm not sure that's right Steve, although I hesitate to question your knowledge. But I have known my 1850 since my brother-in-law bought it when it was 3 years old, and it has never had any bodywork repaired or replaced until I welded up the front of the sills last year. Definitely no bonnet buffers and no sign they were ever there.
Mike
(1969 MGB GTV8, 1977 Dolomite 1850HL, 1971 MGB roadster now all three on the road)
Carledo
TDC Shropshire Area Organiser
Posts: 7248
Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:12 pm
Location: Highley, Shropshire

Re: Bonnet buffer fitting

#15 Post by Carledo »

Bumpa wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 11:38 am
Carledo wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 11:20 am AFAIK, all Dolomites had them from new, but they a) rot away and fall out, b) get removed for wing replacement and not replaced.

Steve
I'm not sure that's right Steve, although I hesitate to question your knowledge. But I have known my 1850 since my brother-in-law bought it when it was 3 years old, and it has never had any bodywork repaired or replaced until I welded up the front of the sills last year. Definitely no bonnet buffers and no sign they were ever there.
Question away mate! I'm always willing to learn and always finding something new! My own 78 Sprint and the 77 1850 shell i've got here both show signs of having them fitted at some point (ie the holes are present in the flitches) As does the all original 75 Sprint I have in the yard. Interestingly though, between these 3 cars, there was only a single buffer actually fitted!

Steve
'73 2 door Toledo with Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 8v engine (The Carledo)
'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!

Maverick Triumph, Servicing, Repairs, Electrical, Recomissioning, MOT prep, Trackerjack brake fitting service.
Apprentice served Triumph Specialist for 50 years. PM for more info or quotes.
Post Reply