Suspension-Shock retaining plates.

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Would you use these to save your lower shock Bush.

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Maybe depending on price.
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Suspension-Shock retaining plates.

#1 Post by SprintV8 »

I’m in the process of doing another part Dolomite owners may be interested in.


Front suspension angle plate on the top arms that also hold the front lower shock.
On the original plates they do not support the Bush in the shock fully.

I’ve had a few made larger to support this Bush.
Photos below.
Is there any interest is these.
The more I get Made the cheaper they will be.
Then I can get a confirmed price on the amount. .
At the moment a set of four work out at £58.

Part 154930
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Shows the original plate
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The modified larger plate.
Does need trimming.
Any ordered needed will be ready to fit without any mods.

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Re: Suspension-Shock retaining plates.

#2 Post by TrustNo1 »

those are not the original type or size bush!!
Some people are like Slinky's, they serve no real purpose in life but bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
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Re: Suspension-Shock retaining plates.

#3 Post by SprintV8 »

I’m lead to believe
That the original Rubber Bush is off nearly the same size.
But slightly tapered on both ends.

Could be these plates could be a better benefit to those with aftermarket shocks,
I.E Spax as fitted to mine.
2011 Mini Clubman John Cooper Works. S Daily Driver.
1980 Dolomite Sprint with a touch of BLTS
Balanced Lightened and Tweaked 13B Rotary and SsuperCharged.
Back in my possession 22 September 2019.
Rebuilding the Sprint time taken so far, 111Hrs@15/12/2020
212Hrs @31/12/2021
352 @ 28/11/2022
455Hrs @ 20/10/2023
565Hrs @ 07/12/2024
This is time taken at the Sprint not necessary time worked.

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Project 13B Sprint now back on..
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Re: Suspension-Shock retaining plates.

#4 Post by xvivalve »

The original bushes for this location (including proprietary Spax ones) are simple cylindrical rubbers with a steel sleeve; they protrude only very slightly from the eye at the bottom of the shock.

For some reason, some aftermarket 'poly' bushes are formed in two 'top hat' halves that push in from either side over a similar metal sleeve, meaning there is a lip beyond the eye as per Phil's photo'.

Phil is correct that these plates would be of greater interest to those who've fitted after market 'poly' bushes with the lip, but my concern here is that a gap will be left between the plates and the ball joint casting, which would need packing with washers of the appropriate size to stop the ball joint being able to wander 'fore and aft, despite being fixed in place by the vertical link...
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Re: Suspension-Shock retaining plates.

#5 Post by SprintV8 »

xvivalve wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:34 am The original bushes for this location (including proprietary Spas ones) are simple cylindrical rubbers with a steel sleeve; they protrude only very slightly from the eye at the bottom of the shock.

For some reason, some aftermarket 'poly' bushes are formed in two 'top hat' halves that push in from either side over a similar metal sleeve, meaning there is a lip beyond the eye as per Phil's photo'.

Phil is correct that these plates would be of greater interest to those who've fitted after market 'poly' bushes with the lip, but my concern here is that a gap will be left between the plates and the ball joint casting, which would need packing with washers of the appropriate size to stop the ball joint being able to wander 'fore and aft, despite being fixed in place by the vertical link...
The replacement plates are the same thickness as the originals.
So no packing of washers or shims are needed.
All it’s doing is giving extra support to the lower Shock Bush.

Unless the lower shock Absorber sleeve is too long resulting in excess gap.
Easier to trim the sleeve.

Yes my Spax have two piece bush’s as the original Spax rubber bush’s just don’t last.
2011 Mini Clubman John Cooper Works. S Daily Driver.
1980 Dolomite Sprint with a touch of BLTS
Balanced Lightened and Tweaked 13B Rotary and SsuperCharged.
Back in my possession 22 September 2019.
Rebuilding the Sprint time taken so far, 111Hrs@15/12/2020
212Hrs @31/12/2021
352 @ 28/11/2022
455Hrs @ 20/10/2023
565Hrs @ 07/12/2024
This is time taken at the Sprint not necessary time worked.

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Re: Suspension-Shock retaining plates.

#6 Post by xvivalve »

A standard bush is the same width as the mounting point of the arm of the ball joint.

The thickness of the plates is not relevant, it is the excessive protrusion of the bush lip either side of the shocker eye which pushes them further apart meaning the ball joint can ‘rattle’ in the wider gap created, hence my suggestion for packer washers.

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