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Water Pump tool

#1 Post by Lee Flintoft »

I see that Rimmers do two tools for removal, the cheaper one's about six quid, and the others about forty quid. Has anyone used the cheaper one and was it ok.

I've never had the water pump out, but while repainting the engine it tipped over and has now developed this steady run of water (which was mentioned on a thread about a week or 2 ago). So I am obviously going to be looking at changing the seals.

Rimmers do a repair kit for £26.50 plus carriage. There are some being advertised on ebay, is this likely to be the same kit:-

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Triumph Stag TR7 Dolomite water pump rebuild kit

because these are only £17.50.

Your thoughts and advice please.....
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The cheap one

#2 Post by tinweevil »

The cheap one is just a hook that you screw into the pump and hook a slide hammer onto. Great if you have a slide hammer or plan to get one, useless otherwise. The more expensive tool is a slide hammer that screws straight into the pump top, no use as a general purpose slide hammer tho.

There's a new style of seal some suppliers now have in their pump kits that is an improvement on the old. I've not seen one so can't tell you if that picture is the new style.

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#3 Post by Stagger »

I've removed three from diifferent engines and not needed a slide hammer yet. Turning clockwise with a socket is all that has been needed.
I would try it before buying one. If this fails you could try levering it out with screwdrivers under the slackened bolt as per Haynes manual.
Be careful not to break the impeller when you strip the pump though as these cost more than a whole 1850 off e-bay.
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#4 Post by Lee Flintoft »

Thanks for the replys, i'll try the socket first and see how i get on. I bought the repair kit anyway, just hope its ok. :scratchin:
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Mmmm :-k , could be interesting. While i've got your attention Alun, have you fitted any of these Alloy steering rack mounts. I know you were looking at them a couple of weeks ago. The reason is, I purchased some from Mark at Jigsaws and i've tried them tonight. It looks like i'm going to have to file out the existing holes in the subframe, to make them to fit the new u bolts. Is this standard? or has anyone else the same problem?
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#7 Post by Mad Mart »

OK, I've drawn this up. It's not to scale but hopefully you'll get the gist of it. I have no idea if it will work but it looks like it might. :D (So no comebacks if you break the brass cage).

By having a slot in the bottom strip you should be able to feed the strip through the bottom of the cage & then slide it over so it pulls against the bottom on both sides. Then just start tightening the top nut.

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#8 Post by xvivalve »

That is very similar to a tool that Ted made Mart, the bar across the top needs to be quite a thick profile!. A slot will need to be cut into the end of the bolt so a screwdriver can be used to stop the whole thing turning. Ted's also uses a pair of bolts with washers over their heads, fiddly to set up but very effective
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#9 Post by xvivalve »

Nope, all the ones I have fitted, fit perfectly. I'd send them back to Jigsaw saying they do no ft!
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#10 Post by Mad Mart »

The top bar could even be box section. Good point about the slot Alun, similar to a head stud.
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#11 Post by Lee Flintoft »

Loks good to me Mart. Gonna give it a try on Sat morning.
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Slide hammer

#12 Post by Jon Tilson »

Ive yet to experience a cage that doesnt just bump out with a slide hammer. I modded one to have the left handed bolt on the end. Works every time. If the cage stays in just hook the bolt under the bottom and its out in a jiffy...
Stripping them down is a whole other game of soldiers...


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#13 Post by ecurie »

I'm planning to fit an electric waterpump : do I have to take out the brass cage or can I just use the plug from the TDOC and leavi it at that ?

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#14 Post by Mad Mart »

You'll need to take out the brass cage as the club "bung" is essentially a solid cage.

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#15 Post by Mike Groom »

If you have the 'pro' water pump removal tool, you can get the cage out by using the Mad Mart style slotted plate, attach it to the tool by removing the nyloc nut, insert the plate under the brass cage and tap it out using the slide hammer upside down. This saves having to make up the treaded bar and box section bit to bridge the pump aperture.

Lee, let us know how you get on refurbing your pump.
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