Triumph 1300TC - should I get it?

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Triumph 1300TC - should I get it?

#1 Post by cgomes »

Well folks...i saw my first triumph a couple of days ago. I'm not really the kind of guy who cares about cars (I also don't know the first thing about mechanics..), but on the way to the garage that will become my band's new practice space...well there it was

a dark green Triumph 1300TC. I don't know why, but I just loved the sight of it!

now, the tricky part.

At 20, I 'm a young one (and at uni...), so I'm always short on money (as you can imagine haha)

And the car was parked in that spot in 94...and never taken for a spin again.

Now, why am I writing this? As I've said, I don't really know much about mechanics...so I was wondering if you could point out if there are a few parts that (virtually) always need replacing, so that I could start wrapping my mind around what I'll have to look out for..

I've read lots of topics on this forum (very helpful bunch you are, btw :)), and I've noticed that the amount spent can be very different for 2 similar restorations, but could you please throw a ballpark figure? Again, I know it might be way off (considering I haven't even managed to get inside the car and tried to start it...), but I sure could use some reference points :)

Thanks guys :)

(sorry bout any weird sentences - english is not my first language :P)
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This is an interesting question....

#2 Post by sprint95m »

as there are numerous variables involved it is difficult to be precise about repair/restoration without detailed examination.
The following may help-
Are you able to post photographs of the car?
Why has it not been run since 1994?

From my experience of returning cars to the road....
at the very least you will need to carry out a full service and replace perishable items such as the coolant hoses and tyres.

Are there many 1300s in Portugal?
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#3 Post by DavePoth »

Your English is much better than my Portuguese.

the big problem with any old car is rust. Hopefully with this car being somewhere quite warm it won't have suffered as much as they can here in the UK.

The 1300TC FWD is a great little car, it's very comfortable and I am told rides very nicely. In good condition some owners have got their car "off the clock" (160kmh+ I think on these cars) which is really quite impressive for such an old car with a small engine.

Parts are a little harder to get for these cars than for some classic cars, however the club can supply the majority of things that you need to keep the car running, and club members often have some of the bits that can take some hunting around for.

As Sprint95m has said, some pictures will give us a much better idea of how good the car is. Try to get pictures of the part above the rear windscreen, the bottom corners of the front windscreen, the wheelarches, and the front and back of the sills along the bottom of the doors, as these are the bits that usually rust.
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#4 Post by 1300dolly »

Hi welcome to the forum
Being a 1300 front wheel drive im guessing that the engine will probably be fine, rust will be the major thing, sills, inner wings, around the headlight area under wing,and exhaust.
will need new tyres, maybe brakes and will need new drive shaft coulpings (large black rubber rings on the driveshaft) these cost about £100 and i wouldn't try fitting them yourself if you've never done it before.

Im not trying too put you off, i have two myself and they are great cars to drive but its not a cheap thing to take on, saying that if you only want it as a project and the price is right i say go for it.
cgomes

Re: This is an interesting question....

#5 Post by cgomes »

sprint95m wrote:as there are numerous variables involved it is difficult to be precise about repair/restoration without detailed examination.
The following may help-
Are you able to post photographs of the car?
Why has it not been run since 1994?

From my experience of returning cars to the road....
at the very least you will need to carry out a full service and replace perishable items such as the coolant hoses and tyres.

Are there many 1300s in Portugal?
will try to get some photos up in the next few days :)

not quite sure on the background, but it seems that the owner just died and it became oblivious to the family.

not many 1300s in Portugal...actually, not that many Triumphs round here. For parts I may look around in any scrapyards I've got nearby, but I'm not really expecting to find another 1300...
DavePoth wrote:Your English is much better than my Portuguese.

the big problem with any old car is rust. Hopefully with this car being somewhere quite warm it won't have suffered as much as they can here in the UK.

The 1300TC FWD is a great little car, it's very comfortable and I am told rides very nicely. In good condition some owners have got their car "off the clock" (160kmh+ I think on these cars) which is really quite impressive for such an old car with a small engine.

Parts are a little harder to get for these cars than for some classic cars, however the club can supply the majority of things that you need to keep the car running, and club members often have some of the bits that can take some hunting around for.

As Sprint95m has said, some pictures will give us a much better idea of how good the car is. Try to get pictures of the part above the rear windscreen, the bottom corners of the front windscreen, the wheelarches, and the front and back of the sills along the bottom of the doors, as these are the bits that usually rust.
well, top speed is definitely not my main concern...I was thinking more on the lines of keeping it for city use.

so, the main problem I might be facing is rust. I'll make sure to take some photos of those specific spots for you guys to take a look.
1300dolly wrote:Hi welcome to the forum
Being a 1300 front wheel drive im guessing that the engine will probably be fine, rust will be the major thing, sills, inner wings, around the headlight area under wing,and exhaust.
will need new tyres, maybe brakes and will need new drive shaft coulpings (large black rubber rings on the driveshaft) these cost about £100 and i wouldn't try fitting them yourself if you've never done it before.

Im not trying too put you off, i have two myself and they are great cars to drive but its not a cheap thing to take on, saying that if you only want it as a project and the price is right i say go for it.
well, that is good news :)

I am more concerned about it moving or not (haha) and the integrity of the chassis. I reckon the condition of the body is also important, but (if the damage isn't that significant) may be seen as secondary? (or am I wrong?)

well yes - tires I had seen as the obvious thing to replace (poor things are a gazillion years old and they're as flat as it gets..), and the same applies to brakes. Drive shaft couplings didn't seem so obvious (well, especially considering I'm not really sure what drive shaft couplings are exactly yet - but I'm working on it! haha) but I'll keep that in mind too :)
1300dolly

#6 Post by 1300dolly »

There is no chassis as such, just the front subf frame, if you look under the front you will see the frame being held onto the body by 4 bolts (hopefully) it is this frame you want to attach a rope to, if the bolts and surronding area are ok it should be ok to winch onto a trailer.
Buy yourself a Haynes workshop book or a factory workshop book if you can get one, they appear on ebay regularly.
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#7 Post by cgomes »

1300dolly wrote:There is no chassis as such, just the front subf frame, if you look under the front you will see the frame being held onto the body by 4 bolts (hopefully) it is this frame you want to attach a rope to, if the bolts and surronding area are ok it should be ok to winch onto a trailer.
Buy yourself a Haynes workshop book or a factory workshop book if you can get one, they appear on ebay regularly.
OK, that I'll do - even if I end up not getting the car, it doesn't hurt to learn how it works :)
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#8 Post by cgomes »

after a quick search on eBay, I've found 5 books that might match the description - this, this, this, this and this.

Any tips?
1300dolly

#9 Post by 1300dolly »

number 3, the haynes one

or even beeter are these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1969-TRIUMPH-1300 ... dZViewItem

its the original workshop manual used by the triumph dealers.
have a look trough the bay as you may find it cheaper although this is a fair price.
unlike this one at £49.99 :shock:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/triumph-1300-work ... p1638.m118

you can also get the workshop spare parts catalogue which list every part with part numbers with full page exploded views but these are a bit harder to find.
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#10 Post by sprint95m »

All the workshop manuals and parts catalogues for the 1300, Toledo, 1500 and Dolomite range are available together on one CD.
I bought one of these from Rimmers. It is useful but a scutter to use (due to poor referencing by the compilers). After buying it, I have seen them on ebay for a fraction of the price I paid :( .
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#11 Post by 1300dolly »

My CD ended up in the bin, i thouight it would be quicker but as you say it has poor referencing abilitys and i often ended up cross referring to the book to make sure!
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