now i plan on hill climbing my spitty next year, but im just after advice on where to look and where to go for info etc, as its not or wont be standard, as the new engine is planed to be 2.2 with forged pistons etc with about 180bhp, with EFI, alcon brake upgrade kit and few other bist and bobs but dont know what the rules and regs or the classes are like? if anyone can help id apreciate it!
cheers
Jony
hill climbing
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SPRINTPARTS
Re: hill climbing
Hi Jony,
I can't help you with any rules or regs for hill climbing, but I am interested in the mention of a 2.2 (?) motor. I don't wish to sound a smart ar*e, but are you sure that you will have 2.2 litre motor? The largest oversizes for a Sprint is usually +040", which equates to approx 2040cc, so to achieve 2.2 litre, you would need some very special pistons. I do know of some motors at around 92mm bore (= approx .070") but special heaad gasket required, along with very thin bore walls.
I believe that a long stroke crank would be the only way to see 2.2 litre. If you have done this, well done, I did look at this but cost was prohibitive. If you are really only running +020" pistons, most catergories allow for one overbore without having to pass into the next engine capacity class.
Mark
I can't help you with any rules or regs for hill climbing, but I am interested in the mention of a 2.2 (?) motor. I don't wish to sound a smart ar*e, but are you sure that you will have 2.2 litre motor? The largest oversizes for a Sprint is usually +040", which equates to approx 2040cc, so to achieve 2.2 litre, you would need some very special pistons. I do know of some motors at around 92mm bore (= approx .070") but special heaad gasket required, along with very thin bore walls.
I believe that a long stroke crank would be the only way to see 2.2 litre. If you have done this, well done, I did look at this but cost was prohibitive. If you are really only running +020" pistons, most catergories allow for one overbore without having to pass into the next engine capacity class.
Mark
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Nick C
Re: hill climbing
Jony - your best bet regarding the rules is to get in touch with a local motor club that is involved in hillclimbs - they will probably have a resident expert (or several) who can explain it all over a pint... They'll also be able to lend you a copy of the official MSA rule book, and explain what, if any, licence you need for it...
The official MSA website should have a list of motor clubs on it, although I don't know how up to date it is!
The official MSA website should have a list of motor clubs on it, although I don't know how up to date it is!
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JonyPI
Re: hill climbing
well iv priefly spoke to george ralph who already hilclimbs a 6 and aparantly i need a licience but only about 30quid and no test or anything.
sprintparts, unfortuantely its not the sprint ill be hill climbing, its my spit6 PI which im currently building the new engine for.
and thanks for the advice nick
sprintparts, unfortuantely its not the sprint ill be hill climbing, its my spit6 PI which im currently building the new engine for.
and thanks for the advice nick
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SPRINTPARTS
Re: hill climbing
Hi Jony,
I thought that 2.2 litres from a Sprint was wishful thinking!!!!!!!!!!! Good luck with the hill climbing.
Mark
I thought that 2.2 litres from a Sprint was wishful thinking!!!!!!!!!!! Good luck with the hill climbing.
Mark
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Re: hill climbing
I think you just need to send off for the National 'B' licence. And join a club.
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Jimmie
Re: hill climbing
Hey,
I was at a hill climb last weekend at Harewood http://www.harewoodhill.co.uk/.
To enter any recognised motorsport event you will need an MSA (Motor Sports Association) licence. There are a number of different licence types. For most sprints and hill climbs you only need a National B licence (Non-Race is fine). This costs around £34 a year.
You can download a licence application form and other details at http://www.msauk.org
Along with your licence you will get an MSA Competitors Yearbook – ‘the Blue Book'. This is the bible on motorsport rules. You will need to read this to understand what you can and can't do. It also lists all clubs and their contacts.
I haven't read it yet, but there's this book, which was highly recommended while I was at Harewood:
Hillclimbing and Sprinting: The Essential Manual which explains how to get into the sport, how to develop when you are involved, with many useful tips on techniques and advice on cars, preparation, trailers, championships, marshalling and much more. Basically, if you are thinking of taking up this branch of motorsport this book tells you how.
The book includes course notes for 20 of the most popular courses in the country (including Harewood!) as well as history and people stories plus a comprehensive reference section.
The book, with 112 pages, 150 colour photos is available for £17.99, plus P & P from:
Veloce Publishing Ltd
33 Trinity Street
Dorchester
Dorset
DT1 1TT
01305 260068
http://www.veloce.co.uk
or from the author - email Phil Short (phil.short@blueyonder.co.uk) or call 01943 607630 for details
Good luck mate, it's something I really fancy doing myself (hence reading into it already!). I've marshalled at circuits (Oulton Park) and fancy marshalling a hillclimb to get a feel of it before possibly having a go!
Also try your hand at autotests/autosolo (like autotest but 1 direction [forwards!] only) to practice car control in an competitive environment?
Hope that helps!
I was at a hill climb last weekend at Harewood http://www.harewoodhill.co.uk/.
To enter any recognised motorsport event you will need an MSA (Motor Sports Association) licence. There are a number of different licence types. For most sprints and hill climbs you only need a National B licence (Non-Race is fine). This costs around £34 a year.
You can download a licence application form and other details at http://www.msauk.org
Along with your licence you will get an MSA Competitors Yearbook – ‘the Blue Book'. This is the bible on motorsport rules. You will need to read this to understand what you can and can't do. It also lists all clubs and their contacts.
I haven't read it yet, but there's this book, which was highly recommended while I was at Harewood:
Hillclimbing and Sprinting: The Essential Manual which explains how to get into the sport, how to develop when you are involved, with many useful tips on techniques and advice on cars, preparation, trailers, championships, marshalling and much more. Basically, if you are thinking of taking up this branch of motorsport this book tells you how.
The book includes course notes for 20 of the most popular courses in the country (including Harewood!) as well as history and people stories plus a comprehensive reference section.
The book, with 112 pages, 150 colour photos is available for £17.99, plus P & P from:
Veloce Publishing Ltd
33 Trinity Street
Dorchester
Dorset
DT1 1TT
01305 260068
http://www.veloce.co.uk
or from the author - email Phil Short (phil.short@blueyonder.co.uk) or call 01943 607630 for details
Good luck mate, it's something I really fancy doing myself (hence reading into it already!). I've marshalled at circuits (Oulton Park) and fancy marshalling a hillclimb to get a feel of it before possibly having a go!
Also try your hand at autotests/autosolo (like autotest but 1 direction [forwards!] only) to practice car control in an competitive environment?
Hope that helps!