where do I start?
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WD40?
is a cleaner IMO...
ALways swear by Plus Gas myself.
Better than nothing I suppose...and its cheap.
Jonners
ALways swear by Plus Gas myself.
Better than nothing I suppose...and its cheap.
Jonners
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John Simpson of Practical Classics must swear by Duck Oil. He mentions it enough times in his articles.
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Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
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West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
Re: where do I start?
I've recently started...
taking all the pipes, cables and peripheral engine compartment bits out (radiator, SU carbs, etc. - these will all need cleaning, exchanging, replacing, as and where applicable, etc). Spraying loads of stuff with GT50. Think it's going to be a long haul...
Just removed the headlights to find the usual rust - bad but not as bad as some I've seen on here.
Good fun this - well it's ok at weekends during the day - evenings prove to be a nightmare here in the south wales uplands due to a tiny, tiny gnat/bug/fly (only 3mm long) that irritates/bites like hell.
Currently optimistic, but rapidly realising that it's going to take time.
taking all the pipes, cables and peripheral engine compartment bits out (radiator, SU carbs, etc. - these will all need cleaning, exchanging, replacing, as and where applicable, etc). Spraying loads of stuff with GT50. Think it's going to be a long haul...
Just removed the headlights to find the usual rust - bad but not as bad as some I've seen on here.
Good fun this - well it's ok at weekends during the day - evenings prove to be a nightmare here in the south wales uplands due to a tiny, tiny gnat/bug/fly (only 3mm long) that irritates/bites like hell.
Currently optimistic, but rapidly realising that it's going to take time.
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Re: where do I start?
As Dave Poth has said, when you get to it, the Club do repair kits for the inner wing box sections. You need to keep the subframe close to position in order to locate the new parts correctly; with Adam's drop it all out scenario it will be nigh on impossible to effect an accurate repair such that it could all be bolted back up. The Club kit has been designed so that it can be installed with major items 'in the way' so to speak, piecing it together in sequence whilst still allowing a mig torch access
Check out:
viewtopic.php?t=1872&highlight=repair+panels
There is now also GRP front panels, and coming soon GRP rear screen vent panel
Check out:
viewtopic.php?t=1872&highlight=repair+panels
There is now also GRP front panels, and coming soon GRP rear screen vent panel
Re: where do I start?
OK, thanks for the tip xvivalve
Once I get to that point I'll consider which action to take. Sounds like the in situ subframe sounds the most accurate depending on me finding a decent welder...
Cheers,
Nick
Once I get to that point I'll consider which action to take. Sounds like the in situ subframe sounds the most accurate depending on me finding a decent welder...
Cheers,
Nick
Re: where do I start?
just caught this thread. good work on getting started 
you are right, it is a long haul, but keep at it and lots of advice (and encoragement) on this forum. I was in a similar position and a while later (about 9 months to be exact), my car is in pieces and I'm waiting for the bodywork to get done. Excitement and motivation has not dulled !
and adam, that looks quite a radical subframe removal.....
keep going, take lots of pics
stu

you are right, it is a long haul, but keep at it and lots of advice (and encoragement) on this forum. I was in a similar position and a while later (about 9 months to be exact), my car is in pieces and I'm waiting for the bodywork to get done. Excitement and motivation has not dulled !
and adam, that looks quite a radical subframe removal.....

keep going, take lots of pics
stu
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Re: where do I start?
I second Jonners with the Plus Gas. (bought some since my last post on this thread) WD40 was originally developed to disperse water hence the name. (it was the 40th such formulation during development) I've only just got my 1850 on the road (got the garage to do the work needed when it was MoTd) so I hope it inspires you.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Toledo Man
West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
Re: where do I start?
Good to see that you are making progress. It is a long haul, but it'll be worthwhile in the end. Plusgas is great, but so is Duckoil.
Piccies?
Keep going!!!
Ken
Piccies?
Keep going!!!
Ken
Nick........
I think it will be sensible for you to remove the petrol pump, fuel line and petrol tank before you start the welding especially since you are working in an enclosed space.
Also, I suggest storing these items in a different location.
Are you going to remove the engine as well?
Also, I suggest storing these items in a different location.
Are you going to remove the engine as well?
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Re: where do I start?
I'll remove the fuel pump, fuel lines and fuel tank once I found somewhere to store them - that's likely to be just before I start on the cutting/grinding/welding part.
as for the ;pus gas - that stuff looks like it'll work wonders - is it better in aerosol or liquid form ? (Suppose that depends on how much I'm likely to use)
I'll try and get some pics sorted as soon as the weather lifts ( I live 100ft up, so at the moment we're in the cloud base!)
as for the ;pus gas - that stuff looks like it'll work wonders - is it better in aerosol or liquid form ? (Suppose that depends on how much I'm likely to use)
I'll try and get some pics sorted as soon as the weather lifts ( I live 100ft up, so at the moment we're in the cloud base!)
Re: where do I start?
I've also got a couple of screws/bolts that have lost their head slots coupled with seized nuts (non-critical parts) - any suggestions as plus gas won't make a difference there? One of these screws with a knackered slot is the wing mirror removal screw.
AS for photo's - is it the down and dirty rusty/corrosion bits you want to see or just progress?
AS for photo's - is it the down and dirty rusty/corrosion bits you want to see or just progress?

Re: where do I start?
all pics are good pics.....
a bit fiddly to use, but something called an "eazi-out" or screw extractor might be useful for getting out the wing mirror screw. It is hardened steel with a tapered left handed thread. You drill a small pilot hole in the screw you want to remove and then screw in the extractor until it bites. It will then (hopefully) unscrew the offending screw. Cheap enough to buy, usually get a kit with several sizes. Be careful though, I've managed to break the extractor inside a screw which then makes removal very difficult
stu
a bit fiddly to use, but something called an "eazi-out" or screw extractor might be useful for getting out the wing mirror screw. It is hardened steel with a tapered left handed thread. You drill a small pilot hole in the screw you want to remove and then screw in the extractor until it bites. It will then (hopefully) unscrew the offending screw. Cheap enough to buy, usually get a kit with several sizes. Be careful though, I've managed to break the extractor inside a screw which then makes removal very difficult

stu
Re: where do I start?
The wing mirror screw was an issue for me too. My only suggestion is to let the plusgas soak in. Ditto for the siezed nuts. I was haivng real trouble getting my manifold removed from the downpipe, but as it was off the car I was able to lean it so that the WD40 was pushed down the thread by gravity. It came off quite easily afterwards. If you can make a kind of funnel/reservoir with sellotape it might do the job.
Re: where do I start?
thanks for the advice once again, will be putting it all to good use. Found screwed screw/bolts on the front grills as well.
Will be joining the TDC in a week or two when funds allow (it's the end of the school hols and the kids are back next week so I'm short-term skint).
Nick
Will be joining the TDC in a week or two when funds allow (it's the end of the school hols and the kids are back next week so I'm short-term skint).

Nick