Drivers door won't open from the outside!!! PLEASE HELP!

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Drivers door won't open from the outside!!! PLEASE HELP!

#1 Post by grifterkid »

Hello folks...

It seems that things are failing on my Toledo on a darned annoyingly regular basis so I'm back here to ask you good people yet another question!

My Toledo drivers door will now not ope from the outside! The button on the handle, whether locked or unlocked, just pushes straight in with no resistance and seemingly no connection to the latch to open the door! The door locks fine and the door opens as it should when using the interior door handle!!! I can hear something rattling in the door itself so what do you good people think my problem is?!

Any help/advice would be hugely appreciated as I really do need to attend to this ASAP...!!!

Many thanks to you all in advance... :wink:
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#2 Post by Jon Tilson »

Ash if you want to pop over we can have a look.
If not you need to get the door card off and see what part of the linkage has popped off.
Pushing out the pin on the window winder is your first step...

If you can still open it from inside its not that serious.

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#3 Post by grifterkid »

Thanks for the offer Jon, I think this may be one of those jobs that I may just be able to handle!

It seems like the old buzz-box is starting to show me it needs to have some thorough TLC very soon indeed... :roll:
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#4 Post by mjump »

I had the exact problem with my rear door. I took the door card off and could see where the linkage had disconnected but could not for the life of me figure how to re-attach it. I took the door card off the other side for clues only to find it was held with a trusty cable tie. I applied one to the faulty side and one and a half years on it's still good!

Once the door card is off and you fiddle with the handles on each side the problem should appear obvious.
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#5 Post by grifterkid »

So I finally took the door card off and I can see the problem...

Oh heck!!!

There is a part that I believe should be connected to the door handle mechanism with a pin that is no longer connected!

I delved into the bottom of the door and found what I believe to be the pin as well as a spring that looks similar to what you would find on an old springy clothes peg...

I assume I need to connect this all back up but I'll be jiggered if I can figure out how to do it?!?!?! There is just not enough space in that top corner of the door to do anything!!!

Oh and way to go with attaching the window winder Mr.Triumph!!!!!!!

Any help or advice would be HUGELY appreciated and then some!
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#6 Post by Jon Tilson »

Okay you need to undo the bolt at the bottom of the door that holds the window track.
Window up obviously. Then pull the window track down and away.

Then you can figure out how the linkage from the handle goes to the lock mechanism.
It has a nylon top hat plug with a hole it it, a spring clip with a matching hole and the linkage wire/rod connected to the
door handle.

The linkage wire goes through the clip and top hat and the clip springy bit hold on to the wire/rod.

The top hat also goes in that slidey thing on the lock to "unlock" it.

Easier to do than write...

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#7 Post by grifterkid »

Thanks Jon, I will take the door apart a little bit more than I have already!

If anyone has got any pictures of how the handle/lock/latch mechanism should look when it is all in one piece that would be utterly superb as I need to have a point of reference to work from...

Thanks to you all...
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#8 Post by Henk »

Here you are, in top left corner of image you see the incoming part of the door handle.
Click link below:
http://www.imgland.net/?img=TBP6hH4mC.jpg
Last edited by Henk on Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:36 am, edited 4 times in total.
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#9 Post by grifterkid »

I can't see the image sir...!!!
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#10 Post by Henk »

I'm sorry, I can't figure out how to resize the large image. For now I've got the huge one activated...
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#11 Post by grifterkid »

That seems to make sense although I cannot see where the spring should go...?!

Oh well, that's a job for Sunday afternoon...!!!

Thanks for the image Henk, it is appreciated... :wink:
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#12 Post by Henk »

I recently removed and reinstalled the whole lock assembly at my car but I can't remember a spring you're describing. You maybe can post a picture of it here?
The thing I can think of is a spring from inside the door handle (the spring to return the opening button to original position)?
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#13 Post by grifterkid »

Hmmmm, I wonder what the spring could be then as my door handle 'button' pops out as it should even though the door doesn't open when pushed in...!!!

Interesting... :roll:
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#14 Post by Toledo Man »

I've now uploaded my Toledo parts catalogues and workshop manual to my BT Cloud. Please feel free to download them.

Have you taken a look at the other side? It might help for a comparison.
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#15 Post by grifterkid »

Toledo Man wrote:I've now uploaded my Toledo parts catalogues and workshop manual to my BT Cloud. Please feel free to download them.
Amazing...! Thanks a million... :wink:
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