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self adjusting lever arm

#1 Post by Maidstonerob »

Just spotted these on ebay and have had a punt on them. I Believe they are the same as on Dollies as we apparently share them with mk2 cortinas and capri as well.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 59&alt=web
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#2 Post by SprintMWU773V »

No these are slightly different from the Dolly ones. They may work but the bits where the clevis pin goes in is quite different. MG C ones are the same as Dolly but new these cost £50 each!
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#3 Post by Maidstonerob »

Bugger!

Will see what these ones are like when they arrive but £50 each for the MG is very steep.

Perhaps these can be modified will try and report back
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#4 Post by SprintMWU773V »

The Dolly/MG ones look like this - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGC-HANDBRAKE ... 28016092b7 These ones are repro but are very nice quality

I was able to find a pair of NOS ones recently, not a bargain at £35 the pair but not too bad either. Unfortunately they are hard to come by in good condition either because of corrosion or like mine the adjuster end had worn to the point of chipping.

Interesting I saw a pair of adjuster wheel son Ebay the other day fetch crazy money, north of £80 for a pair!
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#5 Post by Maidstonerob »

I hoped the ford ones would be the answer to the difficulty in getting some and at a price at least close to reasonable.

Its the left or near side i need so if all else fails at least i can gp back to the ones for the MG

Thanks for putting them up.

Spent a while on the phone to all the usual suspects trying to find one and it was an advertiser in the dolly magazine thay said ours were the same as cortina mk2 and capri but after reading on a Ford forum that these were also the same as the escort mk1 mexico etc I jumped on these

Will strip out my good one one the offside to compare to these when they arrive and take a few pics etc if they appear useable
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#6 Post by Jon Tilson »

Your major issues are...

1. Does the pivot match the wheel cylinder? I suspect it will....

2. Does the tooth on the arm turn the wheel? If 1 is ok I suspect it will be.

3. Does the front "foot" work ok on the shoe and dont forget the shim.

If 1-3 work its just a case of making the cable fit. I'm sure that can be done somehow.

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#7 Post by SprintMWU773V »

I also have a Ford one knocking around and I think the arms are shorter on the Ford ones which means your cable will either be very tight or won't quite be long enough. That said I haven't actually tried so you may yet be in luck. Would be a result as the Ford ones are fairly easy to find.
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#8 Post by Maidstonerob »

Fingers crossed then!
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#9 Post by Jon Tilson »

If its too short it shouldn't be too hard to make a longer cable end....or some sort of link.

The cables are also pretty adjustable...

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#10 Post by Carledo »

If the arm is too short you will lose some of the mechanical advantage of the lever and turn what is already a pretty poor handbrake into a useless one! Several people I know have home made LONGER arms to make the handbrake more effective (mostly on Heralds and the like, but the principal is the same)

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#11 Post by Jon Tilson »

A properly setup dolomite handbrake will give the same reading as the footbrake on MoT rollers
and should lock the rear wheels on a dry road.

If they don't then something is wrong...

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#12 Post by sprint95m »

Jon Tilson wrote:If its too short it shouldn't be too hard to make a longer cable end....or some sort of link.

The cables are also pretty adjustable...

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Indeed, you can buy alternative clevis forks from the kit car people or
to lengthen an existing one you could weld a nut onto it.


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#13 Post by shaunroche »

Are these arms really sought after then?
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#14 Post by Maidstonerob »

shaunroche wrote:Are these arms really sought after then?
A search of the forum showed up a few posts about them and the difficulty in sourcing them. My near side lever has snapped so if an alternative can be used thats not silly money then another item of unobtainium once more becomes available.

Doubt there is anything like the demand to warrant the club looking into remanufacture but if we can hop on someone elses then its all good
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#15 Post by shaunroche »

Well in that case, I've got a pair you can have if you want them?

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