A bit of a dopey carpet question

[olr159w]

I've finally replaced the sound-proofing in the Sprint and have re-fitted most of the carpets. It's brought up that recurring uncertainty I have about the order of fitting the front carpets. It doesn't matter which order I choose, there's always a bit that looks wrong.

So we can assume the sill carpet is glued on. I always assume the carpet under the seats overlaps on top of the footwell carpet but does it?

Then it's a case of whether the tunnel carpet sits over or under everything else.

As far as I can see from the bottom up it's possible to fit it in a few different orders. It could be tunnel first with footwell on top and then seat piece on top of both. Or it could be footwell, tunnel and then seat piece. Or I think it could even be tunnel, footwell and then seat piece over footwell but under tunnel.

I guess the carpets aren't that great and won't look fantastic whatever but I'd appreciate some guidance on this is possible

thanks

[Carledo]

Tunnel carpet first, then main carpet under seats then footwell carpets last is the correct order. This will give the right overlaps.

Steve

[Mahesh]

Thanks, I needed to know that as well.

[olr159w]

Thanks but doesn't that leave the rear edge of the footwell carpet floating around in mid air?

I thought the front lip of the main under-seat carpet kept the footwell piece in place. Although I guess there's nothing to stop that if the main carpet is on top of the tunnel carpet?

m

[Jon Tilson]

The OE footwell carpet has poppers that go on studs that appear through holes in the big underseat bit. I suspect
these are missing if your car has had some floorpan surgery in the past.

Otherwise what Steve said...

Jonners

[olr159w]

Folks

Thanks for the help. I now have the definitive answer, at least for my car. Jonners - your comment about the stud fittings got me looking and now it all fits into place.

My car still has all four studs in place and, as far as I know, the original carpet. All that happened was that the whole lot got taken out for a rebuild ages ago and when it went back I didn't include the sound deadening material. The previous stuff was wrecked, partly from damp as I recall.

So my footwell carpets have a single hole in them on the door side and nothing on the tunnel side. The main underseat carpet section has two poppers on it - one of which that will locate through the hole and the other which will fix straight onto the inboard stud that sits just outside the footwell carpet area.

So it will be tunnel carpet then footwell carpet with the footwell carpet hole located over the stud. Then the underseat bit sitting over both the other bits and buttoning down onto the studs.

Good in theory. The issue will be getting the studs to grip given the thickness of underlay+carpet.

But problem solved. Thanks much

Mark

[Jon Tilson]

Oopps yes a bit of brain fade there...

Hole is indeed in the footwell carpet and the popper is in the main underseat section....

Sorry...

Jonners

[Carledo]

Oopps yes a bit of brain fade there...

Hole is indeed in the footwell carpet and the popper is in the main underseat section....

Sorry...

Jonners

Really? My Toledo, which still has its original carpets, has it the other way round, with holes in the main carpet and poppers on the footwell carpets!

Steve

[80Sprint]

Anyone tried any other carpet fittings if the originals are missing. I am using some thick sound proofing, a cheap type of dynamat, and would like to keep the carpet laying flat, secure and easy to remove if I need to. Not sure studs will work now due to the thickness.

[olr159w]

Well for the record mine has original carpets but new Rimmers sound-deadening pieces. I have shaped the sound-deadening material away from the studs but there is no way either stud on either side is going to attach partly due to the question of whether exact alignment is there after tightening down the seats but mainly, I think, because the sound-deadener is too thick (and the poppers maybe too old)

It might be fixable by clearing a greater radius around the stud to facilitate attachment but I can't see the point. It would sort of ruin the underlay. The net result is the under seat carpet piece has its front edge hanging out rather than poppered down but gravity encourages it to tend towards lying down. It's out of the way under the front lip of the seat anyway. The remaining question is whether the lack of attachment is going to cause the carpets to move around. I think not considering they are shaped, the friction with the sound-deadener is high and they are something of a wedge fit behind the parcel shelf anyway.

m

[80Sprint]

I have shaped the sound-deadening material away from the studs but there is no way either stud on either side is going to attach partly due to the question of whether exact alignment is there after tightening down the seats but mainly, I think, because the sound-deadener is too thick (and the poppers maybe too old)
m

Which is the issue I have so I was looking for alternatives..

[Carledo]

Ive not tried it, but how about spacing the part of the popper attached to the floor up a bit with some suitable size flat washers? Remember the first law of engineering? Keep It Simple, Stupid!

Steve

[olr159w]

Stud is kind of welded into the floor as far as I can tell. I don't think detachment and spacers is an option

My earlier point was that I don't really think this matters. The underseat carpet will hook down over the front due to gravity and none of it is going to be moving anywhere

rgds, mark

[Carledo]

The stud will be held to the floor with either a pop rivet or a self tapping screw through the middle.

Steve