Steering column bearing/bush
Steering column bearing/bush
I have now sourced a replacement bearing/ bush for where the column passes through the bukhead but as mine was completely absent I am not 100% sure which way it goes and despite searching through loads of diagrams I can't find confirmation either way. It makes sense for it to be fitted from inside the car but can anyone confirm this either way?
Re: Steering column bearing/bush
Big bit sits inside the car, chamfered part engine side.
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As I thought, thanks for the confirmation.Galileo wrote:Big bit sits inside the car, chamfered part engine side.
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Did you get the Super Flex one? It is fit and forget.
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I can't remember, Dave!
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Re: Steering column bearing/bush
There seems toe some debate, but I always fit them from the inside, that way it CAN'T fall out!
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I get fed up with telling people that the correct way is from the engine side, as per the workshop manual. It stops the ingress of dirt. Many Sprints have passed through my hands in the last 35+ years and I can only think of one that had it fitted the wrong way around, from inside. At the end of the day it doesn't make that much difference and if it falls out, Steve, you haven't fitted it properly.
They are quite hard to push in.

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Re: Steering column bearing/bush
Lol! Originally when I answered above I'd typed "I'll get my popcorn out with this one", but thought better of it, and I was wrong!
As far as I'm concerned this argument was put to rest by the post 76 parts book that clearly shows the direction the bush should be fitted in, obviously to avoid just this confusion.
I know this because when I replaced mine I did some digging around to check which way around it went in, and there's many a post on this forum alone. My old one was fitted large bit in, so I replaced it as per the newer parts book, and my old one.
As far as I'm concerned this argument was put to rest by the post 76 parts book that clearly shows the direction the bush should be fitted in, obviously to avoid just this confusion.
I know this because when I replaced mine I did some digging around to check which way around it went in, and there's many a post on this forum alone. My old one was fitted large bit in, so I replaced it as per the newer parts book, and my old one.
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Re: Steering column bearing/bush
Maybe Sprint owners are fussier, i've come across many Dollies in 40+ years that don't have a bush in there at all! Probably because it's worn away and fallen out! When I bought the Carledo, it had a "bush" made out of body filler! I kid you not! I couldn't get it all off satisfactorily and had to junk the plate, which in any case was badly ovaled.Mad Mart wrote:I get fed up with telling people that the correct way is from the engine side, as per the workshop manual. It stops the ingress of dirt. Many Sprints have passed through my hands in the last 35+ years and I can only think of one that had it fitted the wrong way around, from inside. At the end of the day it doesn't make that much difference and if it falls out, Steve, you haven't fitted it properly.They are quite hard to push in.
This is the problem, some manuals say one way, some another, others don't say at all and even the parts list is unreliable. To me, common sense says put it in from inside since it's on a downhill slope and the big washer on the bottom of the column holds it in rather than pushing it out, for the same reason as vertical bolts and nuts are always fitted bolt head up, if the nut comes loose, the bolt will not fall out immediately! It's just an engineering principal.
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Re: Steering column bearing/bush
Does beg the question which is the correct why to fit the bush
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I'm with Steve's.
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I'm with Steve's.
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Re: Steering column bearing/bush
95% of the dollies I did see or had or repaired had it fitted from the engine side. When I did see one the fitted the wrong way I always thought in myself here's a lazy mechanics repair again.
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Re: Steering column bearing/bush
Think Ive said this before....
ERO is a K plater and Ive had it long enough for it to have come to me with the bush it got in the factory.
It was fitted from inside the car...fat bit inside, big washer bearing against it - exactly as Steve said...
Have had NBH for a very long time indeed....fitted the same...
LCO was another insider too....on an R plate
Sorry Mart and Jeroen - in this case I dont agree with you...
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ERO is a K plater and Ive had it long enough for it to have come to me with the bush it got in the factory.
It was fitted from inside the car...fat bit inside, big washer bearing against it - exactly as Steve said...
Have had NBH for a very long time indeed....fitted the same...
LCO was another insider too....on an R plate
Sorry Mart and Jeroen - in this case I dont agree with you...

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Re: Steering column bearing/bush
I've just replaced mine.
I have no reason to doubt that the one that came out was the original, so I put the new (poly) one in the exact same way.......big bit on the inside, with the washer bearing on it.
October '75 car.
Cheers,
Rob
I have no reason to doubt that the one that came out was the original, so I put the new (poly) one in the exact same way.......big bit on the inside, with the washer bearing on it.
October '75 car.
Cheers,
Rob
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Re: Steering column bearing/bush
Not this old chestnut again! I suspect that it depends upon who was fitting the bushes when the cars were originally built. Quality Control and consistency weren't excatly BL's long suit and most of the assembly workers would strike on a whim so I don't think they really gave a monkey's which way the bushes were fitted. We know that what's in the parts catalogues isn't set in stone and has been known to be wrong.
What would be interesting would be to find out which way the bushes are fitted on VA1 (the first production Sprint that's in the Coventry Transport Museum) and Danny & Jannette's 1500SE (FVG 95T) which have the bushes that were fitted on the production line at Canley and haven't been touched since.
What would be interesting would be to find out which way the bushes are fitted on VA1 (the first production Sprint that's in the Coventry Transport Museum) and Danny & Jannette's 1500SE (FVG 95T) which have the bushes that were fitted on the production line at Canley and haven't been touched since.
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2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
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West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
Re: Steering column bearing/bush
Maybe the export market did get more tlc in the factory.Jon Tilson wrote:Think Ive said this before....
ERO is a K plater and Ive had it long enough for it to have come to me with the bush it got in the factory.
It was fitted from inside the car...fat bit inside, big washer bearing against it - exactly as Steve said...
Have had NBH for a very long time indeed....fitted the same...
LCO was another insider too....on an R plate
Sorry Mart and Jeroen - in this case I dont agree with you...
Jonners

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