Trailing arm bolts
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Trailing arm bolts
I've always wondered whether the trailing arm bolts where they go through the body should have a washer fitted. Parts book and my memory suggest no but wondered whether it would make sense to fit one to prevent the bolt head burrowing into the body mounting?
I'm removing my temporary axle this evening and will then move onto fitting the refurbished one.
I'm removing my temporary axle this evening and will then move onto fitting the refurbished one.
Mark
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Re: Trailing arm bolts
I fit one both sides as it stops the paint/powder coat getting squashed and flaking.
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Re: Trailing arm bolts
Fit them, because there is no reason why you should trust BL to have got it right in the first place.
My TR5 (wish I did not sell it!) front suspension sat on a little welded steel box on the chassis and these are now well known failure points on TR5&6 and my cure at the time (before it was a well known fail point) was to fit a large washer to spread the load and as I competed in many speed events and the car was sold on to a friend who competed and won the post historic national championship in it with no suspension fail, I guess it was better than the penny pinching BL effort that would fail sat on your drive without any extreme race track test.
Remember that a bean counter working in a company like BL saw a dozen washers at a penny each as a great saving! so overruled an engineer who would recommend them to be fitted.
My TR5 (wish I did not sell it!) front suspension sat on a little welded steel box on the chassis and these are now well known failure points on TR5&6 and my cure at the time (before it was a well known fail point) was to fit a large washer to spread the load and as I competed in many speed events and the car was sold on to a friend who competed and won the post historic national championship in it with no suspension fail, I guess it was better than the penny pinching BL effort that would fail sat on your drive without any extreme race track test.
Remember that a bean counter working in a company like BL saw a dozen washers at a penny each as a great saving! so overruled an engineer who would recommend them to be fitted.
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Re: Trailing arm bolts
Fit them, because there is no reason why you should trust BL to have got it right in the first place.
My TR5 (wish I did not sell it!) front suspension sat on a little welded steel box on the chassis and these are now well known failure points on TR5&6 and my cure at the time (before it was a well known fail point) was to fit a large washer to spread the load and as I competed in many speed events and the car was sold on to a friend who competed and won the post historic national championship in it with no suspension fail, I guess it was better than the penny pinching BL effort that would fail sat on your drive without any extreme race track test.
Remember that a bean counter working in a company like BL saw a dozen washers at a penny each as a great saving! so overruled an engineer who would recommend them to be fitted.
My TR5 (wish I did not sell it!) front suspension sat on a little welded steel box on the chassis and these are now well known failure points on TR5&6 and my cure at the time (before it was a well known fail point) was to fit a large washer to spread the load and as I competed in many speed events and the car was sold on to a friend who competed and won the post historic national championship in it with no suspension fail, I guess it was better than the penny pinching BL effort that would fail sat on your drive without any extreme race track test.
Remember that a bean counter working in a company like BL saw a dozen washers at a penny each as a great saving! so overruled an engineer who would recommend them to be fitted.
track action maniac.
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Re: Trailing arm bolts
Thought as much. It doesn't seem like good engineering to not fit them but thought it was worth canvassing opinion. Just need to check stocks of suitable washers for the arms and the tie bars.
I undid the temporary assembly last night including the shocks into the trailing arms so it's now ready to lower down later on. The shock bolts were particularly corroded but I think it will be easier to lower down with the rusty old ones still in place in case they fall and drag across my nice paint!
I undid the temporary assembly last night including the shocks into the trailing arms so it's now ready to lower down later on. The shock bolts were particularly corroded but I think it will be easier to lower down with the rusty old ones still in place in case they fall and drag across my nice paint!
Mark
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Re: Trailing arm bolts
I too have added washers where I believe they should be used, as mentioned good engineering practice for spreading the load etc but also this stops the hex heads from deforming metal and forming stress raisers.
Also good eng practice is to have at least 2 complete threads protruding beyond any nut. I have noticed that the BL bean counters have made their own length of bolts in many cases.
I have found original bolts that are 1 3/8 long, so when you buy new bolts, an 1.500 is too long and 1.250 is too short.
Malc
Also good eng practice is to have at least 2 complete threads protruding beyond any nut. I have noticed that the BL bean counters have made their own length of bolts in many cases.
I have found original bolts that are 1 3/8 long, so when you buy new bolts, an 1.500 is too long and 1.250 is too short.
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Re: Trailing arm bolts
There are some good points made in this thread. As Jon has said, BL didn't always get it right first time and the extra length of new bolts will allow for the thicknness of the flat washers to spread the load.
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2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
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1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
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Re: Trailing arm bolts
Old temporary axle removed! First major progress since my move. Wasn't the easiest thing to do but got there in the end.
The one I removed, which is rather unknown is now available for FREE to someone who wants it - viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32094
The one I removed, which is rather unknown is now available for FREE to someone who wants it - viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32094
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Re: Trailing arm bolts
Keep going Mark, would love to see it on the road.
Are you going to be ready for the first Tatton? Eric is collecting names.
Are you going to be ready for the first Tatton? Eric is collecting names.
It isn't Orange!!!!!!
The other one wasn't Purple either!!!
One of the new ones will probably be green, very green.
Another new one is green too but not as green as the previous one. Still pretty green. No, now it's Blue.
The other new one will be white with stripes. Actually it might not. No, it will be.
BUT, that one is definitely Yellow :=}
The other one wasn't Purple either!!!
One of the new ones will probably be green, very green.
Another new one is green too but not as green as the previous one. Still pretty green. No, now it's Blue.
The other new one will be white with stripes. Actually it might not. No, it will be.
BUT, that one is definitely Yellow :=}
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Re: Trailing arm bolts
No it won't be ready for Tatton, not this year anyway. One little step at a time for me at the moment.
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