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road springs (standard or inch lower`d)

#1 Post by tamtrucks »

im looking to renew the road springs on 1300 browny,think past there best but still holding on :)
got front and rear shocks sorted
standard height or inch lower`d......any advice?

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Dolomite 1300,1980`V`reg in british racing brown(russet),3.63 diff with 21t speedo pinion,95%poly`d,HL clocks,standard wheels with SE covers wrapt in 175 70 13,mot`d 19-09-2014,been off the since 1990,(july2017) stainless steel exhaust 3-piece,(xmas2018) wooden mountney steering wheel,(june2020) new monroe shock(radial front,gas-matic rears) with -1" lower`d springs all round.
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Lowered looks awesome, but the ride is quite different. A standard height car soaks up a lot of road imperfections. A lowered car...not so much.
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Just take care what you get.
I ordered standard ride height heavy duty springs from Rimmers.
The rears were too big to fit the spring top plates (so I had to fettle them)
The front ride height is about the same as the other springs I have which were 1" lowering springs (even though the new ones were supposed to be "standard")
I took it up with Rimmers and they said they'd investigate, but never got back to me.
Anyway with those springs it looks like this:
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think i might go for standards all round and go from there,any one got free length sizes of front and rear springs,,so i can measure the new ones at rimmers there not far from me
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Middle one, which is the one fitted on the front for the photo of the car above, is 325mm free length. (Rimmers HD "standard" ride height... according to them)
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Left is original spec, on the right is the official 1" lower.

Sorry haven't got photos of the rear.
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yorkshire_spam wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:37 pm Just take care what you get.
I ordered standard ride height heavy duty springs from Rimmers.
The rears were too big to fit the spring top plates (so I had to fettle them)
The front ride height is about the same as the other springs I have which were 1" lowering springs (even though the new ones were supposed to be "standard")
I took it up with Rimmers and they said they'd investigate, but never got back to me.
Anyway with those springs it looks like this:
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That doesn't surprise me, bought a sprint rocker arm from them. Secondhand, so i didn't expect perfection but the faces were so rotten it looked like it came from the bottom of the sea. Complained, said they would get back to me and never heard a thing.

I avoid them unless there is absolutely no alternative.
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il hold off buying,might have to strip a leg of red dolly and take spring with me to rimmers.........thanks all for advice.nice one :D
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yorkshire_spam wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:37 pm Just take care what you get.
I ordered standard ride height heavy duty springs from Rimmers.
The rears were too big to fit the spring top plates (so I had to fettle them)
The springs from Rimmers have always been like this, I had a 'discussion' with them over 10 years ago where they said I was fitting them wrong and when I said a neighbour of mine has the same issue and had sent theirs back they still denied it even when sent proof they still continued to say there wasn't a problem.
I then found others who had sent springs back but Rimmers still wouldn't admit they were the wrong size. we did receive a refund as a 'good will gesture' from them though.
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TrustNo1 wrote: Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:14 pm
yorkshire_spam wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:37 pm Just take care what you get.
I ordered standard ride height heavy duty springs from Rimmers.
The rears were too big to fit the spring top plates (so I had to fettle them)
The springs from Rimmers have always been like this, I had a 'discussion' with them over 10 years ago where they said I was fitting them wrong and when I said a neighbour of mine has the same issue and had sent theirs back they still denied it even when sent proof they still continued to say there wasn't a problem.
I then found others who had sent springs back but Rimmers still wouldn't admit they were the wrong size. we did receive a refund as a 'good will gesture' from them though.
Are there any other suppliers out there that can do HD Standard ride height springs? I recon to have searched the usual suspects before (with a heavy heart) ordering from Rimmers.... only for my fears to be proved right.
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yorkshire_spam wrote: Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:53 pm Are there any other suppliers out there that can do HD Standard ride height springs? I recon to have searched the usual suspects before (with a heavy heart) ordering from Rimmers.... only for my fears to be proved right.
I think (but may be wrong) I used Herald Spring as the are the same size but heavier.
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herald? any pictures of spring on shock
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tamtrucks wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:14 pm herald? any pictures of spring on shock
they are fitted to a car in my workshop, if I remember (not very likely) I'll pop them out and measure them.
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#13 Post by SprintMWU773V »

Fit standard springs and height adjustable dampers, best of both worlds.
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Hmm......

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Very reluctantly I feel I must comment....
yorkshire_spam wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:10 pm Middle one, which is the one fitted on the front for the photo of the car above, is 325mm free length. (Rimmers HD "standard" ride height... according to them)
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Left is original spec, on the right is the official 1" lower.

Sorry haven't got photos of the rear.
That is what I would expect to see, Sam.
If the HD was the same free length as the standard spring wouldn't the car sit higher?



I have used springs from Rimmers without any problems in conjunction with adjustable shocks.
From experience, I know buying adjustable shocks is sensible because the fixed type don't always have
the platforms in the same place.
In other words I agree with Mark:
SprintMWU773V wrote: Fit standard springs and height adjustable dampers, best of both worlds.
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sprint95m wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:55 am Very reluctantly I feel I must comment....
yorkshire_spam wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:10 pm Middle one, which is the one fitted on the front for the photo of the car above, is 325mm free length. (Rimmers HD "standard" ride height... according to them)
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Left is original spec, on the right is the official 1" lower.

Sorry haven't got photos of the rear.
That is what I would expect to see, Sam.
If the HD was the same free length as the standard spring wouldn't the car sit higher?
Also what I expect to see, but I've measure the front (settled) ride height with all 3 of those springs fitted and the HD "STD" are within a few mm or the 1" lower spec springs, whereas the original saggy old springs give a ride height roughly 20mm above that. Accounting for sag over the years I'd say that tallies up and the HD "STD" springs Rimmers supplied never had a cat in hells chance of giving me STD ride height.
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