Clutch Master Cylinders

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Clutch Master Cylinders

#1 Post by xvivalve »

To date, I haven't bothered getting any of the clutch master cylinders with the integral reservoir sleeved with stainless steel and reconditioned because I understand they are still available new at reasonable costs, albeit possibly aftermarket items. At £85.00 the resleeved ones would be about twice the cost.
My question is should I, would there be a demand for them?

The Sprint unit with remote reservoir was a similar dilemma, but there has been sustained demand for them since I bit the bullet...
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It is certainly a lot cheaper to have them resleeved with a stainless insert in this part of the world rather than buying a new master cylinder, which if the cylinder is so-called New Old Stock of an unknown age I would want to fit new seals anyway.

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Hi Robert,

It’s an aftermarket product I’m comparing them to, but I’m reading several folk having early failure of the copies, hence my question.
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If the club did stainless sleeves on OE then I would purchase one if needed for my car, simply due to the knowledge that a quality new part cannot be manufactured for £45. A one-liner in the part description, "OE stainless re-sleeve, not a copy part" or similar might be enough to persuade others.
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Aftermarket copies of this particular cylinder are plentiful, simply because of it's near universal nature, it fits nearly everything British from the 60s and 70s with a hydraulic clutch and also does some smaller cars as a brake master cylinder too.

Since one of it's apps is series Landrovers, I doubt that the modern aftermarket copy supply is going away any time soon. It's probably one of the very few aftermarket bits with more than one manufacturer.

So the issue is one of quality and the quandary is the same as the steering racks, buy a cheap one that doesn't last, or pay more and get something that WILL stay the course.

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Carledo wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:09 pm Aftermarket copies of this particular cylinder are plentiful, simply because of it's near universal nature, it fits nearly everything British from the 60s and 70s with a hydraulic clutch and also does some smaller cars as a brake master cylinder too.

Since one of it's apps is series Landrovers, I doubt that the modern aftermarket copy supply is going away any time soon. It's probably one of the very few aftermarket bits with more than one manufacturer.

So the issue is one of quality and the quandary is the same as the steering racks, buy a cheap one that doesn't last, or pay more and get something that WILL stay the course.

Steve
The problem I have found is there doesn't seem to be any connection between price and quality. Sometimes I have spent more and still got a garbage part. Sometimes the cheaper part is actually better.

Then there are the times when one batch of parts is better made and another is rotten. Or the production of a decent part is suddenly transferred to China and quality goes into the toilet. Finding quality parts for any car, let alone classics, is nightmare nowadays.
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cleverusername wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:33 pm
Carledo wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:09 pm Aftermarket copies of this particular cylinder are plentiful, simply because of it's near universal nature, it fits nearly everything British from the 60s and 70s with a hydraulic clutch and also does some smaller cars as a brake master cylinder too.

Since one of it's apps is series Landrovers, I doubt that the modern aftermarket copy supply is going away any time soon. It's probably one of the very few aftermarket bits with more than one manufacturer.

So the issue is one of quality and the quandary is the same as the steering racks, buy a cheap one that doesn't last, or pay more and get something that WILL stay the course.

Steve
The problem I have found is there doesn't seem to be any connection between price and quality. Sometimes I have spent more and still got a garbage part. Sometimes the cheaper part is actually better.

Then there are the times when one batch of parts is better made and another is rotten. Or the production of a decent part is suddenly transferred to China and quality goes into the toilet. Finding quality parts for any car, let alone classics, is nightmare nowadays.
The one that WILL stay the course, that I was referring to, is the club remanufactured one!

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'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!

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#8 Post by tony g »

I have always wondered where the rubber seals come from that go into the re-sleeved units. Unless the rubbers are un important if it fits into a good bore (as opposed to the crap cylinder bores)

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