Does the clutch pushrod clevis screw off?

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Does the clutch pushrod clevis screw off?

#1 Post by Galileo »

As in the subject, stupid question I know but before I swap over my clutch master cylinder I might as well have all the parts to hand if I need to buy one, remember the T2000 did, not sure about a Sprint's though.
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Re: Does the clutch pushrod clevis screw off?

#2 Post by mahony »

No it has a washer and a split pin fitted :D
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Re: Does the clutch pushrod clevis screw off?

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Well yeah, but I mean does this bit (below) unscrew as it does on some pushrods or is it welded on?! My new (Wilwood Girling clone) master cylinder pushrod has a 5/16" UNF thread, and the clevis question only just occurred to me as I was going to change it over Sunday but didn't want to take it all out and then put it back again. Guess I could use the old pushrod but I'd like to use the new one to reduce a bit of wear.
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Re: Does the clutch pushrod clevis screw off?

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No, the OE has the fork welded to the rod.
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Right ho, I thought you meant the clevis pin through the pedal :oops:
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Cheers Alun, Mahony. Glad I checked, would have been annoyed to have taken it all out just to put it all back in again.
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#7 Post by Jon Tilson »

There is no reason not to use the screw on type.

Just set it to the right length and it will be fine if you dont have the welded type.

These are used on P6 rovers too and have a lock nut so you can twiddle the rod to adjust its effective length and set the pedal height.

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Re: Does the clutch pushrod clevis screw off?

#8 Post by tonybsa »

Use the screw on one,I have one on mine.It allows you to adjust the length of the pushrod so that you get full movement at the clutch slave cylinder.With the original set up,the clutch pedal will hit the carpet,before the clutch slave cylinder has moved fully.Your gearchange will feel a lot smoother as a result.
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tonybsa wrote:Use the screw on one,I have one on mine.It allows you to adjust the length of the pushrod so that you get full movement at the clutch slave cylinder.With the original set up,the clutch pedal will hit the carpet,before the clutch slave cylinder has moved fully.Your gearchange will feel a lot smoother as a result.
Do you have the right diameter cilinders or mounting ofset? Never had this problem. Using a solid pipe between the cilinders with a coil bend in it for movement do make my clutches feel like "modern" ones. The brake hose type in between gets soft and on LHD cars the exhaust heat does also no good to these.

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#10 Post by Jon Tilson »

And on an lhd car the clutch pedal doesnt hang up on the carpet like it does on UK ones, especially older cars with
the proper carpets and underlay.

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Jon Tilson wrote:And on an lhd car the clutch pedal doesnt hang up on the carpet like it does on UK ones, especially older cars with
the proper carpets and underlay.

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Even less travel than your rhd ones. It touches the bulge of the wheelarch/innerwing and not the vertical bulkhead part.

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Re: Does the clutch pushrod clevis screw off?

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In short, being able to get more slave movement is a good thing, so happy to go with adjustable clevis. When I got into a hire car recently I could barely drive it at first due to not being used to such a high (normal?) pedal biting point!

I might well have the wrong slave/master cylinder bore combination, apparently replaced recently according to last owners notes. Clutch biting point was always close to the floor, but after a new clutch and secondhand gearbox the biting point is now on the floor, not only that but varies by itself and sometimes does not disengage at all without a few pumps of the pedal if I've revved hard, say over 5000rpm. I would say it's air in the system, but the fact that it's mostly okay seems at odds with that. As I've replaced the wedgelock (with the Chris Witor alternative one) and overhauled the entire release mechanism, I'm thinking (and hoping due to slave inaccessibility) master cylinder issues, especially as it weeped fluid a little before a recent seal change, so hence replacing it with a new Wilwood one.
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#13 Post by Jon Tilson »

Sounds like the weld on your clutch cross shaft is on the way out....

Box is coming out again soon then...suggest going for a bellows slave.

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Re: Does the clutch pushrod clevis screw off?

#14 Post by Galileo »

Normally a good call Jonners, but not this time, used a late model arm with a much better fully welded join on it unlike the original one, apart from anything else I checked that first, and it's been like this since I did all the work after the last one failed!
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Re: Does the clutch pushrod clevis screw off?

#15 Post by xvivalve »

Stainless sleeved clutch master cylinders, the remote reservoir type, are now in stock. £87.50 each incl postage to UK address on exchange basis
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